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Neil Gaiman Accused Of Sexual Assault Pt II

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hihelenhi · 26/08/2024 14:30

As we're nearly at the end of the first thread, let's make sure we keep the topic current.

There have been five women now who have spoken to podcasts about the predatory behaviour of Neil Gaiman.

First thread here:

www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5112128-neil-gaiman-accused-of-sexual-assault

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AstonScrapingsNameChange · 12/09/2024 14:36

wrongthinker · 12/09/2024 14:33

Well it does very much look like AP was involved in finding vulnerable young women and sending them to NG to abuse, so I think it's fair enough to question her.

And this discussion has been going on for two and a half months now, so the silence of NG's friends has come up more than once. It's not a question of blaming the women. Just having a conversation that covers various aspects and nuances of the situation.

If you read back through the threads, you'll see your point has been made a few times by various commenters. Of course NG is the person who should be held to account for his crimes.

Oh don't get me wrong, I wasn't saying that the women you have mentioned are necessarily blameless. I didn't explain myself very well.

I have read the thread and was quietly raging about how differently men and women are treated by the media and society for real or even perceived transgressions.

wrongthinker · 12/09/2024 14:40

AstonScrapingsNameChange · 12/09/2024 14:36

Oh don't get me wrong, I wasn't saying that the women you have mentioned are necessarily blameless. I didn't explain myself very well.

I have read the thread and was quietly raging about how differently men and women are treated by the media and society for real or even perceived transgressions.

I'm not blaming anyone other than NG for NG's actions. Sorry if it came across that I am.

The double standards for men and women are shocking, I agree. Women - you can't dissent from the woke ideology in any way or we'll destroy you. Men - you can literally rape girls and we'll still like you.

AstonScrapingsNameChange · 12/09/2024 18:02

Yes, I was running with your point in a stream of consciousness rather than disagreeing.

notathenabutcassandra · 12/09/2024 21:36

72 days since accusations of sexual assault were made against Neil Gaiman, who has yet to respond.

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notathenabutcassandra · 12/09/2024 22:54

Also... this is disgusting: journal.neilgaiman.com/2024/09/little-big.html

No mention. That in itself is abysmal.

CorruptedCauldron · 13/09/2024 09:38

notathenabutcassandra · 12/09/2024 22:54

Also... this is disgusting: journal.neilgaiman.com/2024/09/little-big.html

No mention. That in itself is abysmal.

That is the first journal update since June. Scrolling down, it seems previous journal entries were written by Neil Gaiman, while this one is bylined Dan Guy. I think Neil would have put his own name to it if he wasn’t currently hiding under a rock, waiting for the allegations to be forgotten.

NoBinturongsHereMate · 13/09/2024 11:52

"Please respect our inability to comment further on the matter at this time."

Interesting line in the press release... Not won't comment or don't want to comment, but unable to comment.

StainlessSteelMouse · 13/09/2024 12:33

There will have been some legals to get out of the way.

I'm going to guess they're a relatively small business and, from their customer base, NG branded perfume not an insignificant part of their sales. So it's brave of them to terminate the partnership.

annejumps · 13/09/2024 14:04

StainlessSteelMouse · 13/09/2024 12:33

There will have been some legals to get out of the way.

I'm going to guess they're a relatively small business and, from their customer base, NG branded perfume not an insignificant part of their sales. So it's brave of them to terminate the partnership.

Relatively small yes but very well known in that sort of very online goth girl fandom community.

StainlessSteelMouse · 13/09/2024 14:23

They've been working with him since the 2000s, haven't they? I suppose it's a question of whether he helped their sales more than they helped him cultivate that goth girl audience.

VictorianBigot · 13/09/2024 14:32

Another one

Jay Blades: BBC star in controlling and coercive behaviour charge

www.thetimes.com/article/64cebaf5-8368-4c7c-b5ad-96dbd7d9b572?shareToken=5c175872c2b14f411cb015422224b4af

StainlessSteelMouse · 13/09/2024 15:00

The Repair Shop guy? Is nothing sacred?

Saucery · 13/09/2024 15:43

That was mentioned briefly in the press a few months ago. He was contrite and "lesson learned" but then they often are. It sits nicely between "if I did , it wasn't that bad" and "you made me do it"

notathenabutcassandra · 13/09/2024 18:47

73 days since allegations of sexual assault were made against Neil Gaiman, who has yet to respond.

Neil Gaiman Accused Of Sexual Assault Pt II
CorruptedCauldron · 13/09/2024 19:39

noodlezoodle · 13/09/2024 18:47

The Guardian finally comes through: https://www.theguardian.com/books/2024/sep/13/neil-gaiman-screen-adaptations-halted-after-allegations-of-sexual-misconduct

I don't know where (or if) it is appearing in the print copy but it's in the top section online.

Finally! What took them so long?! Note that they avoid specifying the number of women who have made allegations.

noodlezoodle · 13/09/2024 19:48

I wonder if they were shamed into it by The Times coverage?!

hihelenhi · 13/09/2024 20:08

And only 73 days late, hey?

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Fenlandia · 13/09/2024 20:17

noodlezoodle · 13/09/2024 19:48

I wonder if they were shamed into it by The Times coverage?!

Yes I wondered that too. Plus in-house lawyers picking over every word.

CorruptedCauldron · 13/09/2024 20:22

The BBC will be next to break the silence, I hope!

CorruptedCauldron · 13/09/2024 20:34

Desperation on Xitter:

Neil Gaiman Accused Of Sexual Assault Pt II
BezMills · 13/09/2024 21:00

Tragic poundshop botfarm cringe. He paying much for this service you think?

CorruptedCauldron · 13/09/2024 21:07

It’s so embarrassing, BezMills. I would cringe for him if I could care less!

BezMills · 13/09/2024 21:11

Imagine if that was your actual job?

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