Melbourne - women's rights rally disrupted by trans rights activists

[ArabellaScott]

https://www.news.com.au/national/victoria/news/transgender-liberation-protesters-disrupt-womens-rights-rally-in-melbourne/news-story/081e824a3c2b6c5cefcb0b9204966a2e

I hope all the women are okay.

Astonishingly the reporting so far seems quite neutral and even handed.

So are they basically calling for something like the CASS review? It seems like a rally to safeguard children. Does safeguarding children = anti-trans? 🤔

Those women are brave. It’s not long since a man killed and injured a bunch of women in Sydney in a mall. To stand in front of that barrage, and to speak anyway, that is very brave.

I heard a segment on ABC tv this morning and this was very surprising. In the past, these rallies have been reported as ‘anti-trans’. I didn’t hear that this morning. I was pleasantly surprised.

Of course it's male supremacy and bigotry. It always has been. That's what has all those poor young women trying to 'trans' to escape it, instead of going into convents and/or starving themselves the way they used to. The men using 'trans' to pursue and harass and intimidate women are just the other side of the same coin.

Time to stop the toddler politics and start engaging with the issues of competing rights, safeguarding children and women's rights.

Wouldn't that be grand but I fear it is beyond their capabilities.

https://x.com/mscarriggofreal/status/1824699685946429500?s=46&t=ZX_bLozRqm8etdGICMcAvA

I think it is a woman as this clip you can hear the person screaming at the police.

Evidently. If the starting point of your cognitive ability is to think people can change sex via the magic of words, then a priori your mechanism is fucked.

Hey Christin, just to clear things up for you it was a woman's rights rally and a violent, racist, counter demo.

You right-wing anti-women activists really shouldn't try to stop women of colour from speaking.

Men are men. Women are women.

That's it.

... the footage is right there for you to look at. Women passionately but politely making a case, and the fascist thugs on your side trying to violently prevent it.

I know that reality is 'phobic for your people, but you 'identifying' as the good guys doesn't work when we can see the truth right in front of us.

No in fact you are wrong on every level, it's just the trans activist like to make everything women do alllll about them.

It's good to see the Women Rights Activists in Australia standing up for themselves, perhaps they're inspired by the women senator's speech in their parliament the other day. (There was a thread on it but i couldn't remember which one it was, so I couldn't give the name of the senator.)

Well said.

And they insist they are the good guys, newsflash - you and those violent, racist counter demonstrators are not @Christinapple you are no better than TR's crew and we can all see it with our own eyes.

It's probably one of those hairy chested women.

I think the days when Chris was worried about looking silly are long gone.

Great to see MSM reporting properly on this topic.

@TheywontletmehavethenameIwant

Claire Chandler.

The person who posted the clip (on the side of women’s rights, & I think she took the footage too) identified the shrieking-thrashing individual as female.

Certainly it would be unusual for a male individual to produce that kind of sound when roaring.

I saw the arrest footage in this very long livestream by a 'citizen journalist'.
I agree it sounded like a woman
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=006VIF9ov9A

Well quite @DeanElderberry The critique of carceral state policies has been part of the US Civil Rights movement since, probably, the 1950s.

And in Australia & NZ, there are real and very painful issues around the intersection (or collision) of indigenous rights and women's rights. For example, what was called the Aboriginal Legal Service in NSW, Australia (states have different organisations in Australia) had a policy of not prosecuting indigenous accused, even in the case of domestic violence cases. It seems very difficult to white feminists, but I understand that the burden of deracination of indigenous people in a settler-colony (invaded) like Australia might weigh more than violence against women - although that is a horrible sentence to write. But the scandal of Aboriginal deaths in custody is still ongoing in Australia, for example.

I think it's this dilemma that Kimberlé Crenshaw was thinking through in her essay on intersectionality back in 1991.

I had to look up ‘carceral feminist’ and found this neat description
It's another form of dick-centring pseudo feminism. It's something that identifies the person who says it as a complete tosser.
at https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/3662172-Carceral-Feminism-is-this-a-thing-now
That led me to this magnificent article
https://www.feministcurrent.com/2015/10/05/a-thank-you-note-to-carceralsex-negative-feminists/

The first article quotes a TRA banner as ““fascist graves are gender neutral toilets””. Perhaps it will catch on.

The women’s banners quoted, about no men in women’s sport, that men can’t become women and that children should not be medicalised, will be easier for the general public to understand.

I’m really pleased Australian women are doing a ‘women speaking’ event as it just shows what you attract when you try to speak, when you try to have opinions. If, as an ordinary woman, you can’t speak freely without being threatened- and thankfully the police presence seems to have been adequate- then it exposes the misogyny that many many not be aware of.

Amazing how the demographics of the "Women will Speak" group seem to hit the usual element.

This has always been old fashioned people stuck in the past versus new ideas, with the odd exception.

Good on them for speaking their truth, and the counter protestors for calling them out on it. Democracy at work.

And how wonderfully dismissive you are of the reason that it was a very small group of women, and women who were incredibly brave to even turn up.

Let's remind you, shall we?

www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4740148-let-women-speak-australia-nz-tour?page=1

In Melbourne, last year, a large group of women turned up of all ages. Including detransitioners and young women. These women were subject to being overwhelmed by mostly male protestors, seeking to drown out their words and to intimidate them. Then some of those women received life changing sanctions and censure for turning up by no less than the Victorian state opposition leader, who went on to defame the women and had to be apologise.

However, the abuse and intimidation has continued to this day. Did you see that someone was arrested for violence on the day? Why would any young woman put herself through the trauma of attending when faced with this?

How fucking dismissive are you Mishy of male violence against women? Oh. that's right. ...

So, no. Any woman who has a career to lose, or who is simply terrified by the violence and intimidation tactics of still mostly male protestors are not going to attend.

But nice for all reading along though to see that you dismiss that male violence still.

Well done.

I think your definition of Democracy needs a little work if you think that's what happen in Melbourne. 🤔