What is a man?

[Bannedontherun]

So piddled off with the debate that is about what a woman is.

It is so reductive, like the debate has quite literally made a journey up our collective innards, starting with our vulva, up the canal to our cervix followed by our womb and ovaries.

Tits are as side issue as we can plonk on some nice perky implants.

So as i asked what is a man?

Exactly. I'll add, a human that has proceeded on the genetically programmed developmental pathway to produce small gametes.

I do think its interesting that the definition and understanding of what a man is, is effectively narrowing as the definition of what a woman is.

Its almost as if there is a priviledge attached to the label of a man, that is not fully open to feminine men or to females who identify as men.

When you start to frame it in this, way and understand its about reinforcing concepts of hiaratical power, its fascinating. Within this you also then have males trying to establish themselves within the framework of 'being a woman' but at a level of power above women themselves.

Women themselves remain firmly at the bottom and this is best noticed by observing who makes the decisions about what a man is, and what a woman is and whether women are allowed to speak for themselves about themselves. When you have transwomen coming on TV to speak about all trans people - its rarely a transman or XY males in women's sport its fascinating. Who is being centred? Its transwomen who transitions as middle aged men who speak on behalf of young teenage girls, not middle aged women who speak about their experiences of being a teenage girl struggling with gender non-conformity...

Its best summed up in a single sentence: Men are whatever men say they are and women are whatever men say they are.

And that is how you tell which ones are the males and which ones are the females...

The chap who arranged to meet me this morning, then spoke almost entirely to the other chap who spoke over me, despite not having been invited to the meeting clearly both know it’s someone who knows all about everything and has no need of input from anyone who isn’t a man.

In fact, a man is an entirely self sufficient being who needs no other kind of being except for childbearing and chores.

I’m trying to imagine a dictionary written by trans activists:

Cat - an animal that identifies as a cat

Chair - an object that is commonly called a chair

Round and round we go and no one is any the wiser for it.

Adult human male.

A man is not a woman.

Interesting to see the mention of shows of emotion.
I've noticed that in reporting the gold medal wins of certain olympic boxers, their responses have been described as emotional. I was wondering if that was to convince us all that they are women.
Bit of a roundabout way of saying what a man is, sorry.

Adult human male.

I like Kathleen Stock's idea about explaining it to someone who is a non English speaker. You can't just say a woman is anyone who identifies as a woman cos you first need to explain what that is. Or a Martian - someone who has no context of what a woman is.

As for what a man is. Anyone with Y chromosomes. I wouldn't personally include a person with an X chromosome carrying a transposed sry gene. This is for the same reason that people with XY and Swyers are not biological women.

I'm a little hesitant to butt in here - but I need to reassure myself that I'm a man, so here goes.

In reading this thread, I have been amused, mildly annoyed, put in my place, and given some factual biological definitions. I feel that I need to point out that many men do recognise their emotional vulnerability; if my wife were to die before me (likely) or leave me (probably unlikely after all these years, but she wouldn't want me to be complacent) I would be devastated.

The reason that I need to reassure myself that I am indeed a man is my lack of macho characteristics. I am very average. I don't have bulging biceps or a six-pack (or that other very masculine thing, a beer belly). I do tend to talk over other people sometimes, and I talk about myself too much, so that's reassuring. I am also in possession of a pair of testicles, and I have evidence that I have a prostate. I suppose I cannot prove conclusively that my children are my own, but such evidence as I have backs up that assumption. I also look like a man, and would continue to do so if I put on a dress, lipstick, nail polish and a pair of impractical shoes.

I hope that helps anyone who is unclear, particularly any lurking men.

"I hope that helps anyone who is unclear, particularly any lurking men"

Not just women who have things mansplained to them, then😂

I was a bit concerned about you until you mentioned talking over people- but I’m pretty sure you’re right. 100% male. Though I’d raise to 110% if you could assure me it’s mainly women you talk over 🤣

We’re a pretty normal couple- lots of stereotypical stuff and plenty of gender busting stuff too. He never talks over me, but to be fair he doesn’t talk much at all! 🤣

Anyone, who without any tests, can qualify for the male Olympic sports?

Juggernauts doped up to the eyeballs?

Oh the garden variety ones are also men? Which ones? They all seem to qualify for the female Olympics...

I'm doing my head in. It's all bollocks.

About time!

A man is the opposite of a woman.

This is actually quite sweet

I hope that helps anyone who is unclear, particularly any lurking men.

I am grateful to m'learned friend for his explanation.

Adult human male (anything else is simply philosophy, psychology, or ideology 🤷‍♂️)

You're exaggerating my expertise. I'm just a man, how would I know what a man is?

Hmm i dont think we should pick on a man mansplaining being a man. He is after all a man.

Are you sure? How can anyone tell?

"Are you sure? How can anyone tell?"

Well I don't understand " whatever men decide". Plenty of people define themselves as "women" / raised as a woman and told in no uncertain terms no you're not a woman you're a man. Ergo women are the experts!