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list nandy fucks up. again.

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lonelywater · 24/07/2024 01:47

just that. despite marginally promising signs of a recent return to planet earth she is now saying trans women (i.e. blokes) should compete against women in sport. Oh dear.

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Bodeganights · 24/07/2024 21:10

MissScarletInTheBallroom · 24/07/2024 08:42

I don't believe for a single second that someone like India Willoughby or Eddie Izzard is petrified of male spaces, let alone someone like Karen White.

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The very lovely 6ft plus Katie dolatowski is I'm quite certain utterly terrified of being in the Male only spaces.
Sadly for Katie, the women are more terrified when katie uses the women only spaces.

Yes I'm being sarcastic with the first statement and honest with the second statement.

Windymoore · 24/07/2024 21:11

JKR against LN really doesn't feel like a fair fight; Like LN has brought a banana to a gun fight.

Hairyesterdaygonetoday · 24/07/2024 21:18

UpThePankhurst · 24/07/2024 08:58

Certainly some of the local TW are huge, well over six foot, one in particular is often high, and they are people you'd get out of the way of fast because of being well known of shouting a whole lot of abuse at any perceived provocation. No, I don't think anyone could reasonably think they'd be 'vulnerable' in a male toilet or changing room, I suspect other men would be wary of them, but better wary than the fucking terrifying that women would find them in an enclosed space. I also think they'd be less likely to tip from aggressive shouting to actual violence with men who might retaliate. The mini skirts don't reduce the size, the strength and the very male attitudes and aggression. Even if they were tiny little sweet and harmless flowers, why should women have to endure that, plus the loss of dignity and privacy and ability to be apart from men when undressed, just because the male's emotional needs matter and apparently female ones don't?

If this is going to be Labour's approach to women's spaces and resources then they're going to find fast that it doesn't work. Nandy seems to be trying out a sweet, kind, 'well people CAN opt out and create female only if they want to, or force females to subordinate themselves and hand over their resources to males if they want to' as if it's all lovely free choice. Which completely steps away from all responsibility and happily identifies that the mad pressure on anything at all trying to use the EqA exceptions ensures only the bravest even try it.

In fact, this 'la la la la' fingers in ears while smiling approach just tacitly enables male dominance over women and the destruction of women's resources while not having to get dainty hands dirty or actually engage with it. It's taking a side without having the guts to own it.

Dead right, especially the last paragraph. Bloody cowards.

UpThePankhurst · 25/07/2024 17:35

Yes.

It's rather like nobly walking past a large bloke bashing a little girl, with your nose in the air, being the 'better person' and not taking sides.

Imnobody4 · 27/07/2024 18:15

OK, seems like people aren't in sync.

It’s fantastic that Paris 2024 marks the first Olympic Games with the same number of male and female competitors.👏

This Government will break down the barriers for women and girls everywhere, including their access to and enjoyment of sport.

x.com/AnnelieseDodds/status/1816920352939016415?t=dlZEQctmDXZ5AVH719D3Zw&s=09

So is this a hands off Government or an interventionist one?

Snowypeaks · 27/07/2024 18:30

And in addition, what does Dodds mean by "women and girls"?

illinivich · 27/07/2024 18:59

So is this a hands off Government or an interventionist one?

Confusing, isnt it? Probably depends on context.

JanesLittleGirl · 27/07/2024 22:19

Snowypeaks · 27/07/2024 18:30

And in addition, what does Dodds mean by "women and girls"?

She may have got it confused with 'Wives and Girlfriends '.

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