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Times article Mridul Wadhwa placed on 'leave' in May.

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Mollyollydolly · 20/07/2024 01:07

Well they kept that quiet.

Archive version of The Times article below.

"The chief executive of a rape crisis support centre has been put on leave pending an investigation into its “Kafkaesque” treatment of staff.

Mridul Wadhwa, a man who identifies as a woman, was sent home in May by the board of Edinburgh Rape Crisis Centre (ERCC) after being identified as the “invisible hand” behind a “heresy hunt” designed to force out Roz Adams, a counsellor with gender-critical views.

The outcry over Wadhwa’s behaviour intensified following the sentencing this week of Cameron Downing, a coercive and manipulative male sex offender, who identified as non-binary and claimed to have received extensive support from ERCC."

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FrancescaContini · 24/07/2024 14:28

@Helleofabore I remember reading about this individual and his very offensive “women orgasm during rape” ideas. Still makes me feel very sick. And to think he was head of a rape crisis centre 🤬

S1lverCandle · 24/07/2024 14:37

FrancescaContini · 24/07/2024 14:28

@Helleofabore I remember reading about this individual and his very offensive “women orgasm during rape” ideas. Still makes me feel very sick. And to think he was head of a rape crisis centre 🤬

Jimmy Saville all over again. The fox being given the keys to the henhouse.

StickItInTheFamilyAlbum · 24/07/2024 14:51

FrancescaContini · 24/07/2024 14:28

@Helleofabore I remember reading about this individual and his very offensive “women orgasm during rape” ideas. Still makes me feel very sick. And to think he was head of a rape crisis centre 🤬

When people are on leave under such circumstances, when are they officially categorised as having left/lost a post or title? Not until they resign or there's a board decision to remove them after due process that was denied to RA?

IwantToRetire · 24/07/2024 16:41

Catsmere · 23/07/2024 22:56

I wasn't referring to systemic misogyny, but to the specific movements of MRAs, incels etc, which were being openly mocked online a decade ago. We didn't get attacked by corporations or governments for pointing and laughing at those men, but the moment they claim to be women, it's a different story. I'm all too well aware that systemic misogyny has never gone away, that women are not liberated from it, and that it's the basis of this movement, which is busy undoing what gains we've made.

What I am saying is that because over generations men / the patriarchy have "agreed" not to be publicly hostile and worse towards women their attitudes haven't changed.

So that when the TRAs starting going full on anti-woman they just sat back with glee, and a few joined in.

If it had been any other protected characteristic, eg race, can you imagine that society would have allowed "self identified PoC" being allowed to rampage through all aspects of society telling Black and other minoritised communities that HAD to accept those self identifying?

Of course not.

It is because the bedrock of our society always has been and still remains deeply sexist, that any of the anti woman rhetoric was not only able to be said in public but praised and endorsed.

This schooling of women would not have been tolerated let alone promoted against PoC, those with disabilities, and so on.

It is because did in the heart of too many (and not just men) women do not have or deserve their own rights.

They should accept what is given and what is taken away from them.

The impact of the GRA on women's sex based rights is social engineering, fully supported by and enabled by the dominate class of men.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 24/07/2024 16:58

I wasn't referring to systemic misogyny, but to the specific movements of MRAs, incels etc, which were being openly mocked online a decade ago. We didn't get attacked by corporations or governments for pointing and laughing at those men, but the moment they claim to be women, it's a different story. I'm all too well aware that systemic misogyny has never gone away, that women are not liberated from it, and that it's the basis of this movement, which is busy undoing what gains we've made.

I agree, they've played a blinder.

Catsmere · 24/07/2024 22:01

IwantToRetire · 24/07/2024 16:41

What I am saying is that because over generations men / the patriarchy have "agreed" not to be publicly hostile and worse towards women their attitudes haven't changed.

So that when the TRAs starting going full on anti-woman they just sat back with glee, and a few joined in.

If it had been any other protected characteristic, eg race, can you imagine that society would have allowed "self identified PoC" being allowed to rampage through all aspects of society telling Black and other minoritised communities that HAD to accept those self identifying?

Of course not.

It is because the bedrock of our society always has been and still remains deeply sexist, that any of the anti woman rhetoric was not only able to be said in public but praised and endorsed.

This schooling of women would not have been tolerated let alone promoted against PoC, those with disabilities, and so on.

It is because did in the heart of too many (and not just men) women do not have or deserve their own rights.

They should accept what is given and what is taken away from them.

The impact of the GRA on women's sex based rights is social engineering, fully supported by and enabled by the dominate class of men.

I agree with all of that; what I'm saying is simply that the crossdressers' version of Men's Rights Activism took off and won governments and corporations as the previous iteration didn't, and even questioning it became a near-criminal offence, which again, didn't happen when mocking MRAs.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 24/07/2024 22:10

I think the cross dressers and their friends were more powerful than basement misogynists ranting on YouTube, and successfully managed to glom onto both LGB rights and feminism, both popular leftist causes (rightly), so a lot of the same basement guys thought "if you can't beat em..."

Catsmere · 24/07/2024 22:13

Yes, these men had Stonewall etc, and pretended to be part of the LBG movement that made serious gains in legal rights such as marriage. Undermining from within.

Angrynotkind · 25/07/2024 09:29

Illuminating interview with CEO Sandy of Rape Crisis Scotland on Good Morning Scotland on BBC Radio Scotland this morning. It starts on sentence guidelines but the interviewer moves onto the Edinburgh Rape Crisis, the tribunal outcome and what's happened to the CEO and does a good job trying to hold Sandy to account. Sandy responds very poorly. It's at 2.20 into the programme.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 25/07/2024 14:01

Sandy is awful and should have been replaced long ago.

lcakethereforeIam · 25/07/2024 14:18

I think she misunderstood the name, 'crisis' is supposed to refer to the women <sigh> people they are meant to be helping not the centre!

UpThePankhurst · 25/07/2024 17:32

It is a reasonable question to ask following the judgement of this case and of others.

Is transactivism compatible with continuing to provide a service to others, or does it necessarily focus only upon the needs of the activist staff? There would be grounds, quite honestly, to discuss the second. And to question whether this kind of activism can ever be brought to work when that work involves providing a service. Particularly a tax funded one. It cannot by nature do 'impartiality' or tolerate other views alongside it.

IwantToRetire · 25/07/2024 17:51

Angrynotkind · 25/07/2024 09:29

Illuminating interview with CEO Sandy of Rape Crisis Scotland on Good Morning Scotland on BBC Radio Scotland this morning. It starts on sentence guidelines but the interviewer moves onto the Edinburgh Rape Crisis, the tribunal outcome and what's happened to the CEO and does a good job trying to hold Sandy to account. Sandy responds very poorly. It's at 2.20 into the programme.

Link to radio interview in this thread https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5127505-edinburgh-rape-crisis-centre

Edinburgh Rape Crisis Centre | Mumsnet

Sounds like Rape Crisis Scotland are back peddling

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5127505-edinburgh-rape-crisis-centre

Catsmere · 25/07/2024 21:50

UpThePankhurst · 25/07/2024 17:32

It is a reasonable question to ask following the judgement of this case and of others.

Is transactivism compatible with continuing to provide a service to others, or does it necessarily focus only upon the needs of the activist staff? There would be grounds, quite honestly, to discuss the second. And to question whether this kind of activism can ever be brought to work when that work involves providing a service. Particularly a tax funded one. It cannot by nature do 'impartiality' or tolerate other views alongside it.

I agree, I don't think it's compatible at all.

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