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A question of context: Where does Anneliese Dodds stand on gender?

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IwantToRetire · 09/07/2024 01:23

Labour’s women and equalities minister supported transgender people being able to declare their own gender.

Anneliese Dodds, who has replaced Kemi Badenoch, backed proposals that would have allowed anybody to acquire a gender recognition certificate if they wanted one.

Gender self-identification was official Labour policy under both Jeremy Corbyn and Sir Keir Starmer.

The now-Prime Minister only scrapped the policy after the backlash to Nicola Sturgeon’s failed attempt to introduce it in Scotland in early 2023 via the Gender Recognition Act.

Upon being appointed shadow minister for women and equalities in September 2021, Ms Dodds made it clear that she supported self-ID, which would revoke the existing requirement for a formal medical diagnosis of gender dysphoria.

In a speech at the Labour Conference, she said that a Labour government would acknowledge “that trans rights are human rights” and “reform the Gender Recognition Act to enable a process for self-identification while continuing to support the 2010 Equalities Act”.

Bridget Phillipson, the Education Secretary who is technically Ms Dodds’ superior as women and equalities minister, has also been an outspoken advocate of transgender policy reform.

In May, she accused Mrs Badenoch of loving “nothing more than a culture war” in response to the then women and equalities minister’s claim that some girls were getting urinary tract infections from not wanting to use gender-neutral lavatories in schools.

She also declined to commit to keeping the Conservatives’ new sex education guidance, which says that it should not be taught earlier than the age of nine and urges schools not to teach contested gender ideology.

“I do think it’s important that children have a wide understanding about their place in the world and understand that families come in different shapes and sizes, and understand issues around relationships,” Ms Phillipson told The Telegraph.

Last month, the MP for Houghton and Sunderland South suggested that Labour will also ditch guidelines banning children from being taught that there are more than two genders.

Asked three times if she would keep the ban or ditch it, Ms Phillipson refused to answer directly but said: “There are trans people within society and their existence should be recognised.”

She was also criticised for refusing eight times to answer whether a biological male should be able to use a women’s lavatory during a radio interview with LBC.

While Ms Phillipson will formally hold the women and equalities portfolio because it has to be held by someone of Cabinet rank, Ms Dodds will be the de facto minister and attend Cabinet.

Some extracts from a much longer article https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2024/07/08/where-does-anneliese-dodds-stand-on-gender/

Can also be read at https://archive.ph/Z0stm

Worth remembering that following the GE, even if every over party voted against a Labour policy, Labour would still have a majority of 112 to get it through unchallenged.

A question of context: Where does Anneliese Dodds stand on gender?

Advocate for trans rights but defender of female-only spaces, how may the women and equalities minister’s views define her future policies?

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2024/07/08/where-does-anneliese-dodds-stand-on-gender

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gummigwer · 10/07/2024 07:57

Hedgeoffressian · 09/07/2024 20:33

What parent in their right mind would vote for this? You can only imagine what they will be teaching them at school now. Canada here we come 🙄

Fuck. We're going to have to all home school.

Ramblingnamechanger · 10/07/2024 08:20

It will be interesting to see the arguments between Jess Phillips and these two over whether women can be safe while men are included in eg refuge provision. Thank you to Lesbian Labour for standing up against the forced teaming.

Calling · 10/07/2024 08:34

Anneliese Dodds' representative was at the general election hustings and was asked: 'in the context of biology and chromosomes, what is a woman?" She replied: "a woman is defined by how you feel. I feel a woman, so I am one. Transwomen are women" followed by spiel about how oppressed trans are.

Justme56 · 10/07/2024 08:54

‘I feel a woman so I am one’, I hope she’s not going round feeling women - that would be a concern!!!

I guess she meant I feel like a woman - it was just my initial reading. Still utter nonsense.

CHEESEY13 · 10/07/2024 09:00

You mean Ms Dodds will fix it for me to (at long last!) self identify as The Martian I've always known I really am?
Hurrah! Beam me up Doddsy.......

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IwantToRetire · 10/07/2024 17:39

Apparently Storm Huntly on 5 (I think that's what its called) had a segement called:

Is Starmer's new Women's Minister right for the job?
He's appointed Anneliese Dodds, who's previously been criticised for her definition of what a woman is.
What do you think?

They included as a commentator, Katy Jon Went, who seems to be a gender critical TW and compared to usually full on TWAW tv commentators, was much more about equal respect, same sex toilets and alternative spaces to those who are trans. (Sorry this is second hand.)

Can only find this clip via twitter and dont know how to make it shareable - sorry: https://x.com/JeremyVineOn5/status/1811006030064574729

Also one of the nurses who is taking legal action about a TW in the nurses changing room rang in.

So even if Labour want us to believe the "woke war is over" it maybe that even if only to be a shit stirrer, the media isn't going to stop covering it.

(Maybe if anyone is interested its available on catch up tv?)

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IwantToRetire · 10/07/2024 17:58

This may be the clip on twitter converted to a thread reader so should be accessible https://unrollnow.com/status/1811006030064574729

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OldCrone · 10/07/2024 18:03

They included as a commentator, Katy Jon Went, who seems to be a gender critical TW

There's a thread about this programme.

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5116457-brilliant-transwoman-on-channel5-now

KJW isn't gender critical, he's an AGP.

https://x.com/transwidows/status/1664272015124221954?s=46&t=PSGltfjrMyZmBtYq2-AVIQ

Mumoftwo1316 · 10/07/2024 18:12

I'm not sure how it's possible to be a gender critical transwoman. What would they be transing to/from? I thought gender critical meant believing that your sex doesn't limit your behaviour/presentation. What makes him different to any other man, from a gender critical POV?

IwantToRetire · 10/07/2024 18:24

As I said I was posting on second hand information.

Have seen the other thread, but the point is in terms of C5 (dont forget JV got his slot because the previous presenter wouldn't apologise for a guest saying women are biological females) and Storm Huntly, irrespective of the messenger, this is going against what has been their normally position. Even if not full on TWAW, but definitely be kind.

Its a shame that they didn't give more time to the nurse who rang in. You would think they would have leapt at the chance to have someone who has been directly impacted have a voice.

And who knows, one day not just C5, but other talk shows will get someone from Sex Matters or LGB Alliance to be a commentator.

Its a bit like having to rely on the right wing press to even give a slight clue that women do not accept the media impression that we have all been Stonewalled.

It might be worth posting on the C5 facebook page to let the presenters and producers know there are other better informed people who could comment / contribute.
https://www.facebook.com/JeremyVineOn5/posts/pfbid01SHhM98AT36pzhkLXJ1eXHp5VtfeajWvwyMrF1LDeeH3MG9UG5k9nHyNMV4nnApkl

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