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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

What threads will FWR host in 6-12 months' time?

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ResisterOfTwaddleRex · 03/07/2024 19:28

As women's sex based rights "never come up on the doorstep" and so on, and given the recent backtracking plus complete silence from Stonewall and co. Oh and the news that Harman might be heading the EHRC, I wondered what thread titles we might be seeing on here?

Concerns I can think of:

The stayed CPS consultation on sex by deception

The "spousal veto" (awful name) removal

Cass implementation or not

Sex Ed in schools

Changing/not changing the EQA

De facto marriage

What other things might we be having to discuss and organise over in the coming months and years?

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ResisterOfTwaddleRex · 06/07/2024 17:09

Posting without comment.

x.com/justintrudeau/status/1809349357948322127?s=46&t=WHoOZ_3Kv5G6-FyQuvE0LQ

"Had my first of many calls with Prime Minister @Keir_Starmer this afternoon. We’re aligned on so much, from the need for more progressive politics to defending democracy at home and abroad.

We’re going to get a lot done together. 🇨🇦🇬🇧"

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Harassedevictee · 06/07/2024 17:22

ResisterOfTwaddleRex · 03/07/2024 21:01

Someone dogged will eventually start to request the Charity Commission's progress and work on the Mermaids report.

Then it'll get buried.

I think that has already been filed in very very deep storage with Iron Mountain - a perfect name for a file repository company.

Bodeganights · 06/07/2024 17:23

BeachParty · 06/07/2024 15:45

Utter scare mongering thread.

Huh? How is the thread title and contents "scaremongering"
We think of what's likely to be in threads over the next year, its guesswork.
We might all be wrong. Threads might be

Kier starmer saves women by making single sex mean single sex.

The labour party listened to women and did good.

The labour party apologised for women having to pay to bring court cases, refunds due soon.

Labour believe a woman is an adult human female.

Gra reform, no, gra to be repealed immediately.

Sigh
Wishful thinking on my part

NoWordForFluffy · 06/07/2024 17:59

ResisterOfTwaddleRex · 06/07/2024 17:09

Posting without comment.

x.com/justintrudeau/status/1809349357948322127?s=46&t=WHoOZ_3Kv5G6-FyQuvE0LQ

"Had my first of many calls with Prime Minister @Keir_Starmer this afternoon. We’re aligned on so much, from the need for more progressive politics to defending democracy at home and abroad.

We’re going to get a lot done together. 🇨🇦🇬🇧"

🤔😩

mb2512cat · 06/07/2024 18:00

FindThatThing · 06/07/2024 16:36

I don’t understand the asexuality one.
What concerns you about 1% of people who happen not to feel sexual attraction?

‘Asexuality’ : arguably a concept vehicle being pushed by T+ for all the young people rendered inorgasmic by ‘transgender healthcare’ - a new identity for them to belong to so they don’t join the ranks of the apostates.

mb2512cat · 06/07/2024 18:21

If you look at everything Labour have done over the years, including when they were in power, so their EQA 2010 and the GRA 2004, then in my view the overarching project is to erase all remaining concept of biological sex in its entirety and replace with self-selected biological sex. So everything that needs to change in order to make that happen will occur. Whether it’s erasing the PC of Sex in the EQA (as it has been replaced by gender in so many policy and DEI documents), and the further loosening of the GRA. They have quite a few legal options open to them: they can make the EQA compatible with the Scottish GRR so that the GRR is able to be passed, or they can bring new legislation/update the GRA so that the Scots GRR is no longer needed.

And while it’s true that the government can’t force people to believe gender ideology, they can bring in legislation to make people fear speaking out about it: so more legal-based intimidations and threats against those who call men ‘men’.

The final pincer movement is education, where they are well on their way already: once all children have been schooled in gender ideology, then the ranks of resistance will eventually thin out as the population gets older and the groomed children become adults themselves in charge of policy.

Good luck to all Labour GC members in averting this dystopian future. This can only be defeated from the inside now. Any GC MPs in hiding will have to come out if there’s any hope of stalling legislation.

eatfigs · 06/07/2024 18:26

The push for normalising euthanasia is terrifying, I can just see now women are going to be murdered by their husbands who will use this as an excuse like the "rough sex" defence.

RethinkingLife · 06/07/2024 19:39

eatfigs · 06/07/2024 18:26

The push for normalising euthanasia is terrifying, I can just see now women are going to be murdered by their husbands who will use this as an excuse like the "rough sex" defence.

I'm apprehensive about the erosion of eligibility criteria for euthanasia in some countries. Nonetheless, I've yet to see any support for the scenario you envisage where the euphemism tends to be mercy killings. I may be very wrong.

WickedSerious · 06/07/2024 19:46

NoWordForFluffy · 03/07/2024 20:08

Sharing a cell with Dave the trucker.

I hope he likes massive salads.

CassieMaddox · 06/07/2024 19:48

The GRA consultation
And I hope we get some old school feminism back - how to clean up the Internet from violent and degrading porn for example. Pushing for implementation of the Nordic model. Action on discrimination of women for pregnancy/childbirth/menopause.

I'll be keeping an eye out for misogyny as a hate crime and the promised action on rape/VAWG too.

CassieMaddox · 06/07/2024 19:51

mb2512cat · 06/07/2024 18:21

If you look at everything Labour have done over the years, including when they were in power, so their EQA 2010 and the GRA 2004, then in my view the overarching project is to erase all remaining concept of biological sex in its entirety and replace with self-selected biological sex. So everything that needs to change in order to make that happen will occur. Whether it’s erasing the PC of Sex in the EQA (as it has been replaced by gender in so many policy and DEI documents), and the further loosening of the GRA. They have quite a few legal options open to them: they can make the EQA compatible with the Scottish GRR so that the GRR is able to be passed, or they can bring new legislation/update the GRA so that the Scots GRR is no longer needed.

And while it’s true that the government can’t force people to believe gender ideology, they can bring in legislation to make people fear speaking out about it: so more legal-based intimidations and threats against those who call men ‘men’.

The final pincer movement is education, where they are well on their way already: once all children have been schooled in gender ideology, then the ranks of resistance will eventually thin out as the population gets older and the groomed children become adults themselves in charge of policy.

Good luck to all Labour GC members in averting this dystopian future. This can only be defeated from the inside now. Any GC MPs in hiding will have to come out if there’s any hope of stalling legislation.

40% of the HoC are now women 👏
So I hope this concern is completely misplaced.

Toseland · 06/07/2024 20:20

FindThatThing · 06/07/2024 16:36

I don’t understand the asexuality one.
What concerns you about 1% of people who happen not to feel sexual attraction?

I think it's been invented so having no interest in sex is presented as a genuine gender but I think it's to cover up and provide a group for all those who are left with no sexual function after trans surgeries. 😰

RethinkingLife · 06/07/2024 21:08

Asexuality is a sexual orientation. It is different from celibacy or abstinence. However, asexuality is a spectrum, and not everyone agrees on the definition.

Is there an agreed definition of "asexual"? (Quotation from Medical News.) Wikipedia entry:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asexuality

Asexuality - Wikipedia

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asexuality

ResisterOfTwaddleRex · 07/07/2024 08:49

SEEN in Journalism on the always-glossy presentation of surrogacy:

x.com/journalismseen/status/1809846752247161153?s=46&t=WHoOZ_3Kv5G6-FyQuvE0LQ

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ifIwerenotanandroid · 07/07/2024 11:27

The Triumph of the TRAs.

Am I the only one whose mind went to this? (So much nicer than the actual words.)

What threads will FWR host in 6-12 months' time?
BeachParty · 07/07/2024 11:31

Toseland · 06/07/2024 20:20

I think it's been invented so having no interest in sex is presented as a genuine gender but I think it's to cover up and provide a group for all those who are left with no sexual function after trans surgeries. 😰

I see we've entered conspiracy theory level of the thread now.
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RethinkingLife · 07/07/2024 12:09

we've entered conspiracy theory level of the thread now.

Or, a provocative idea. Setting aside the specific topic, it's not unusual for companies to medicalise a common condition in order to develop and normalise both it and a treatment for it.

  1. Some forms of “medicalisation” may now be better described as “disease mongering”—extending the boundaries of treatable illness to expand markets for new products
  2. Alliances of pharmaceutical manufacturers, doctors, and patients groups use the media to frame conditions as being widespread and severe
  3. Disease mongering can include turning ordinary ailments into medical problems, seeing mild symptoms as serious, treating personal problems as medical, seeing risks as diseases, and framing prevalence estimates to maximise potential markets
  4. Corporate funded information about disease should be replaced by independent information

Moynihan R, Heath I, Henry D. Selling sickness: the pharmaceutical industry and disease mongering. BMJ. 2002 Apr 13;324(7342):886-91. doi: 10.1136/bmj.324.7342.886. PMID: 11950740; PMCID: PMC1122833.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1122833/

It's not implausible that a lobby group might look to use the existence of a specific condition as cover to normalise their own interests. The co-opting of what used to be known as 'intersex' by lobby groups (despite requests by relevant groups to everyone to stop dragging them into other conversations as a shield) might be a case in point.

Selling sickness: the pharmaceutical industry and disease mongering

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1122833

Goddessofcatkind · 07/07/2024 17:33

WickedSerious · 06/07/2024 19:46

I hope he likes massive salads.

It's "she" you bigot!

ResisterOfTwaddleRex · 09/07/2024 20:30

This, but in the UK

x.com/speechunion/status/1810675275560358072?s=46&t=WHoOZ_3Kv5G6-FyQuvE0LQ

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mrshoho · 09/07/2024 22:42

ResisterOfTwaddleRex · 09/07/2024 20:30

Everything I've read about how the original barbaric case was handled and the way this brave woman has been criminalised is just terrible. How can it be that these men have not been sent to prison?

RethinkingLife · 09/07/2024 22:48

mrshoho · 09/07/2024 22:42

Everything I've read about how the original barbaric case was handled and the way this brave woman has been criminalised is just terrible. How can it be that these men have not been sent to prison?

For anyone not on TwiX:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13568079/Germany-judge-jails-woman-insults-gang-rapist-convicted-attack-girl.html

A woman in Germany has been given a harsher sentence than a convicted rapist after she was found guilty of defaming him.
Maja R, a 20-year-old from Hamburg, called him a “disgraceful rapist pig” and a “disgusting freak”, defamatory under German law.
He was one of nine attackers who gang-raped a 15-year-old girl in a Hamburg park in 2020, in a case that shocked the city.
Maja R was sentenced to a weekend in jail for her verbal attacks. The rapist was given a suspended sentence and served no prison time due to his age.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/german-woman-given-harsher-sentence-155055252.html?

Judge jails woman, 20, for sending online insults to a gang-rapist

The man was one of nine attackers who were found guilty of brutally raping a 15-year-old girl in a city park in Hamburg. Anger grew online and his phone number was leaked, which people then messaged.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13568079/Germany-judge-jails-woman-insults-gang-rapist-convicted-attack-girl.html

Ereshkigalangcleg · 10/07/2024 11:26

Yes, all the countries supporting self ID are a total paradise for women.

ResisterOfTwaddleRex · 11/07/2024 21:04

ResisterOfTwaddleRex · 03/07/2024 19:53

Oh another one: something about "bodily autonomy" as a fig leaf for commercial surrogacy. And "assisted dying" (they'll call it that).

And if voting aged 16 comes in, they'll look to lower the age of consent. And the protections for children at those ages (social care etc) will be removed too.

Cue Graun splash on..."assisted dying"

www.theguardian.com/society/article/2024/jul/11/woman-who-went-with-briton-to-dignitas-sues-police-over-her-arrest

"Miranda Tuckett, who is researching a doctoral thesis on Britons going to Switzerland to take their own lives, is bringing a high court claim for damages against Dyfed-Powys police for false imprisonment, breach of her academic freedoms and assault and battery.

She was arrested in London by four police officers and driven through the night to a police station in Wales, where she was held in a cell for 11 hours before a six-month investigation.
The case has embroiled the prime minister, Keir Starmer, who intervened to try to persuade the police to let Tuckett go in his capacity as a constituency MP.
...
Starmer demanded Tuckett’s immediate release and return to London in his capacity as the constituency MP of her parents, in whose home she was arrested in north London.

The then leader of the opposition wrote an urgent letter to Richard Lewis, the Dyfed-Powys chief constable, saying he was “very concerned” at the detention and that on the basis of what he knew “there was no basis for believing that” the case could meet the public interest test in the Crown Prosecution Service’s assisted suicide policy, court documents show.
Downing Street declined to comment on ongoing legal proceedings. In opposition, Starmer said he was personally in favour of a law change and promised a free vote in parliament."

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ResisterOfTwaddleRex · 25/08/2024 08:03

Free speech. We can't have it here because of our universities operating abroad. Make it make sense.

Free speech reforms ‘halted over China links’

http://digitaleditions.telegraph.co.uk/data/1802/reader/reader.html?social#!preferred/0/package/1802/pub/1802/page/4/article/NaN

"legal documents, seen by The Telegraph, reveal that vice-chancellors’ fears that the law would cause difficulties for their relationships with authoritarian states were also considered.
Responding to a legal challenge from the Free Speech Union, the Government’s lawyers noted that “concerns” had been raised with them about the “consequences for delivering English [higher education] in foreign countries which have restrictions on free speech”.
Several British universities operate overseas campuses as a way to attract more international students, as well as boost opportunities for lucrative research partnerships.
According to the latest figures, 18 universities have 38 campuses in 18 countries, with China and Malaysia the most popular destinations, followed by Dubai and Singapore.
The Russell Group, which represents the country’s top universities, has previously warned of the difficulties institutions would face if they had to implement the new free speech laws in their campuses overseas."

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