Just been canvassed by the Lib Dems

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I've just had a local representative from the Lib Dems canvass our house this afternoon.

I expressed that the local candidate has some odd policies regarding local issues for our borough, and our ward in particular, but because they are local council issues they probably won't impact my vote. The volunteer was happy to dicsuss why these things are policy, and what other things they might do.

However, I thought I'd touch on the issue of gender identity. The moment I stated that the national party's policies on gender identity and women's rights aren't aligned with my own political beliefs the volunteer immediately said "I can see you're never going to vote for the party", turned round and stomped away.

This really is a lightning-rod issue for them, and "no debate" isn't going to cut it.

It matters not though, Labour don’t know what a woman is either. 🙄

Ooh you live near me.

I've not had any canvassers from any party (although I saw some labour ones on a nearby street).

That graph is based on the local elections which the lib dems fought on specific local issues (the Tilehurst car parks for example). In local elections the lib dems are not the second party.

I think polling is predicting a labour win here, and while I'm not happy about it I'll be voting labour because I do not want the Tory or the Lib Dem candidate.

And we can never tell just by looking.🙂

I'm in a Labour stronghold seat which, according to the electoral calculus site I posted above, they have a 99% chance of winning. I've previously voted Lib Dem but I can't bring myself to do it this time. I'm seriously considering spoiling my ballot, which is something I never thought I'd hear myself saying.

I would definitely be voting Tory in your position with such a close call...

The Tories are not going to win, so I would rather have another GC voice, rather than a TRA who actually has the 'lived experience' 🤢

This is what I think too.

There needs to be a decent enough number of Tory MPs to challenge KS' flakiness/craziness/inability to grasp science* on women's rights.

*Noone actually knows because he never gives a straight answer!

I’m in a constituency that has been adjusted, but has been a true blue historically and the nearest alternative is the Lib Dem party. Labour are a waste of time and the green candidate is completely taken by the TRA agenda. I won’t vote for Reform or the Independent as they got chucked out of Reform for some dodgy Tweets. I cannot vote for Lib Dem due to their stance on women’s rights so I have gone through the candidates and think I might vote SDP. I need to read the whole manifesto as I am not a single issue voter. But they look like the nearest thing to a party that has put in writing that they will put women’s rights and needs to single sex spaces high up in their decisions.

I'm in one that has flip flopped, during my time here, between tories and Lib dems. the current Tory is OK on a number of issues for me, a bit wet, came to "get" the sex/gender thing late, but got there. OTOH the Tories have been appalling for the country and need to go. Lid dem candidate is a local councillor who has been very good, and the lib dems locally are good, but I really do NOT want them having any kind of balance of power or influence in pushing their bonkers agenda nationally.

voting for the Tory might help keep a reasonable voice in opposition, but not sure I can do that - 60+yrs of voting and never Tory...... I also think Reform with split the Tory vote here big time.

We too have a SDP candidate, and that looks to be the best option for me. I don't agree with every party on every aspect of their manifesto, but this one looks to hit more of the important targets for me personally.

Yeah they won't be getting my vote.

THIS put me off a bit today! WTAF?! It's the General Election this week FFS! What's Davey pissing around for?

Sir Ed Davey aims for poll bounce with General Election bungee jump (yahoo.com)

My local party told me they wouldn’t want my vote anyway, when I emailed my concerns.
Well ha ha, because Labour appear to have come out of nowhere and are now predicted to win the seat (not that I’d vote for Labour either, but they don’t know that).

Self ID is in their manifesto.

Reform the gender recognition process to remove the requirement for medical reports, recognise non-binary identities in law, and remove the spousal veto.

He's been doing ridiculous things the whole campaign.

I do get it - they aren't even the third party so to get the media to pay any attention to them they do have to silly things. But I doubt it will help them at all. I suppose more people know his name now, than would have otherwise..

I did my postal vote this morning. I had to hold my nose so tight and vote Lib Dem, because it is seat which they could potentially win (previously Tory). I absolutely despise their gender stance but they are not going to get into power, and this was a vote to get the Tories out, nothing else.

backinthebox

Also interesting to note that a lot of my neighbours usually have candidate posters up in their gardens, but there are very few of them this year.“

Same here, NW coast. Walk around a lot and have noticed maybe half a dozen posters in total. Usually many more.

Half have been for the local independent, a couple the born and bred Labour candidate and one LibDem. It’s currently Conservative.

Ah! The Lynne Featherstone approach.

I mean that's the weird thing with politics. They can think what they like. But we don't have to vote for them. But only one of us hoping to appeal.

They are not going to win but according to some polls they are fairly likely to be the main party in opposition. Farage has split the conservative vote and peeled off the far right racists. Some polls show labour with an enormous majority, Lib Dems next and conservatives left with not much.

I'm not so sure. What I can't grasp is that in all the polls the Lib Dem share has not moved, at all. Why therefore are they expected to gain so many seats?? It's happened before, with people having to eat their hats! The Lib Dems are always over-predicted and the Conservatives under. It will be an interesting night, as all my local constituencies are predicted to go Lib Dem, but I am not so sure. Maybe I'll need to eat my hat!!

I think with the Reform vote, they are a new party but the number of mask-off moments their candidates have had recently will make all but the most extreme voters pull back to the Tories.

It's astonishing how little review or monitoring Reform have had before putting candidates forward.

I think because in lots of areas they are the second party after conservatives so if conservative votes shift then lib dems gain the majority.

They have few seats currently because under our political system you could come second in every single constituency and not have a single seat in parliament.

I live close to an area which may well end up with a reform majority. It's really interesting since its a deprived area which historically would have been a labour area (ex mining area). So they've moved from hard left to hard right.

I asked my local candidate questions about this and she didn’t even bother to reply.

So they've moved from hard left to hard right

They are essentially the same animals, you go so far one way, you meet the extreme coming the other way!!

Quite!

Love that imagery! They are SO socks and sandals.