Arrogantly complacent leaflet from Labour written as though Starmer is running for President

[IwantToRetire]

So far I have only had one leaflet re GE. It was from Tory candidate who set out how they thought they could represent the constituency.

But today I got a hand delivered (but addressed to me) a leaflet about voting fot Starmer.

Nothing why I should vote for the Labour candidate.

Nothing about the constituency, nothing about the work the candidate (former MP) has done locally.

Just a long list of Starmer's Labour superiority over the Tories, and how saint Starmer has saved the Labour party.

And then loathsome US style garbage about "service" and country.

It is obviously a standard leaflet that they have just mail merged the candidate's name and constituency name into, although stuck to the safe option of referring to the candidate as they.

Not sure who this is meant to appeal to. Or are they assuming everyone is on social media and geting information elsewhere. Not heard of any hustings.

I had heard that Labour had got trillions more donations than Tories for their election campaign, and cant think why they have used this to churn out such a non credible "why you should vote for me" leafleting.

Not forgetting I dispise him anyway, but genuinely cant think who thought this was a way to encourage people to vote for them.

I wasn't referring to your comment.

I was referring to "there's a lot of shite doing the rounds at the moment".

This isn't shite or fake news, it's true. It's not even particularly scathing, just legitimate criticism of these campaign materials and labour hq and their advocates should welcome this mild, specific and actionable feedback rather than accuse us of putting shite on the Internet.

I've had hardly any leaflets, despite the voting intention stats looking incredibly close for a good while now, and the potential for a Lib Dem win in a true blue Tory heartland area. Only had a fake newspaper from the Conservatives, and a Reform UK leaflet that luckily came through the letterbox when I was right by it, so I was able to immediately open the door and pop the miserable thing straight in my recycling bin, right in front of the person who delivered it. (That pleased me a lot more than it should've.) And we never get canvassers or anything like that.

There was a big box van seemingly made entirely of TV screen parked up next to the car park in town, though. Advertising Labour Any other election, you'd hardly know there was such a thing as a Labour party round here. I mean, they stand someone, but I'd generally assume it's an inexperienced candidate doing it for practice — or someone they don't like, but have to put somewhere.

As an update on my constituency.

A marginal. Conservatives that could go Labour.
So would've thought some campaigning here

Nope. Still nothing except one leaflet from the Conservative candidate.

Nothing else. No door knockers (I work from home so here a lot), and not even a leaflet from Labour, or anyone else.

I'm quite unimpressed as gives the impression tonme that despite being a marginal, none of the parties or local candidates are that bothered about here.

Still undecided but now considering spoiling my ballot for the first time ever.

I had the same letter delivered. I also have had two Labour canvassers and one Labour councillor knocking at the door. It a very safe Labour seat. The canvassers had loads of local knowledge, especially about any issues. I’ve just had two Reform leaflets which I used to make paper aeroplanes as they were too stiff to use as toilet paper.

Can you upload a photo of the leaflet you have received OP

No I cant, and I dislike your implication that I am lying.

And if you had bothered to read the thread you will see that many others recognised it. Just because you didn't doesn't make it not true.

Seriously. As I said to another poster because you haven't experienced it doesn't mean its not true.

If we all followed you advice hardly any thread on FWR could function, because they are more often than not based on an individual's experience.

Added to which, and dont know how many times this had to be said, but posting photos of written text is an act of discrimination.

Anyone with a visual impairment, and / or relies on a speaking browser is automatically excluded by doing that.

So totally inappropriate to suggest that FWR should encourage users to do something that is discriminatory and excluding to users with visual disabilities.

No I cant, and I dislike your implication that I am lying

Why can't you..

*Basically the leaflet is saying we dont trust local Labour candidates to say the right thing, so we will go on being bland.

Nobody must have an opinion.

Nobody must speak out of turn.*

Sorry but imho this is ridiculous. You may think your leaflet says whatever but where I live our Labour candidate has been active on social media since before the election was announced saying lots of things having lots of opinions being anything but bland

Really, really weird

Really not as weird as you starting a Starmer bashing thread

Some people like me, see an earlier post, have had several local leaflets but also received the generic one from Sir Keir Starmer. The generic one started off
Dear Firstname.
I'm not sure what it was trying to achieve. I'm a regular Labour voter and I wasn't impressed.

There's nothing weird about a Starmer bashing thread,he's less use than a sack of wet mice.

What is really, really weird is thinking a Starmer bashing thread on FWR is unusual.

Clearly you aren't paying attention to other threads. Why not take a look as see how many are focused on negative feelings about Labour.

Also the really, really weird idea that some how FWR is a hot bed of false information about Labour.

Who is it that you are so in thrall to that you have been led to believe this and why did you so passively accept it.

For heaven's sake.

The thread was about my experience and actual fact.

Others commented to say that had had the same, other that they had had more specific communications.

You leapt in with over the top accusations about some sort of fraud, and because of what you have experienced in your area, it must be the same elsewhere.

I never know when something like this happens on a thread that someone is having a bad day or they are so upset about the image of FWR that they believe is negative, they have to come on FWR and tell us all that we are the source of being naughtly school girls who haven't accepted our homework with quiet passivity and keen intent to do what we are told.

On the other hand maybe this suggested that in fact FWR is influential so it is necessary to start flying false flags.

*You leapt in with over the top accusations about some sort of fraud, and because of what you have experienced in your area, it must be the same elsewhere.

I never know when something like this happens on a thread that someone is having a bad day or they are so upset about the image of FWR that they believe is negative, they have to come on FWR and tell us all that we are the source of being naughtly school girls who haven't accepted our homework with quiet passivity and keen intent to do what we are told*

Are you on glue?

I never said anything about fraud and I wasn't having a bad day

Your thread was in active discussions which is why I read it.. so I didn't'go on FWR' to tell anyone anything

Your narrow minded criticism of Labour and Kier Starmer prompted a reply

😂

@IwantToRetire

The thread was about my experience and actual fact.

It would have been factual had you posted an image of the leaflet. What you did post is anecdotal.