Arrogantly complacent leaflet from Labour written as though Starmer is running for President

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So far I have only had one leaflet re GE. It was from Tory candidate who set out how they thought they could represent the constituency.

But today I got a hand delivered (but addressed to me) a leaflet about voting fot Starmer.

Nothing why I should vote for the Labour candidate.

Nothing about the constituency, nothing about the work the candidate (former MP) has done locally.

Just a long list of Starmer's Labour superiority over the Tories, and how saint Starmer has saved the Labour party.

And then loathsome US style garbage about "service" and country.

It is obviously a standard leaflet that they have just mail merged the candidate's name and constituency name into, although stuck to the safe option of referring to the candidate as they.

Not sure who this is meant to appeal to. Or are they assuming everyone is on social media and geting information elsewhere. Not heard of any hustings.

I had heard that Labour had got trillions more donations than Tories for their election campaign, and cant think why they have used this to churn out such a non credible "why you should vote for me" leafleting.

Not forgetting I dispise him anyway, but genuinely cant think who thought this was a way to encourage people to vote for them.

I live in a very safe Labour seat. 7 candidates and the only leaflets have been from the Workers party, and reform. My MP is far too busy going round every other area. I haven't actually seen a canvasser anywhere.

I was not impressed at all. I can’t stand Keir Starmer - I am in a new constituency (redrawn boundaries) with a Labour candidate who is new as well. I would’ve liked to know something about this new candidate instead of Keir Starmer. It put me right off to be honest

I got one.

It went straight in the recycling bin or I'd take a photo for you.

That sounds just like the letter I received from Keir Starmer. Generic, accept for addressing me by my first name, and cringeworthy. No mention of the local candidate.
We've both had at least 2 leaflets from the local candidate. No mention of women's rights in either.

In my safe Labour seat the leaflet from Labour is very much about the sitting MP. It talks about his role in the last Labour government and also has short bits in praise of him from constituents. Haven’t seen the Keir Starmer leaflet.

By contrast have just had a (self designed?) 2 sided A5 leaflet from the Lib Dems.

In that small amount of space they conveyed more information about their Party platform and how candidate said they would work for the community.

I have started to think that this all purpose letter (how Starmer will save us) is in fact the grip Labour HQ has on what can or cant be said.

Basically the leaflet is saying we dont trust local Labour candidates to say the right thing, so we will go on being bland.

Nobody must have an opinion.

Nobody must speak out of turn.

Unless of course you are one of the favoured few and can stick the boot into women. https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5107604-angela-rayner-wont-apologise-for-calling-wpuk-and-lgb-alliance-hate-groups

I got one.

It went straight in the recycling bin or I'd take a photo for you.

So did my DP (but not me) it got ripped it up or I'd get it out of the recycling bin.

This is absolute rubbish and not my experience at all. I have had several communications from our Labour candidate detailing his policies and plans for our local community. I will vote Labour because I support him and Keir Starmer not just to get the Tories out

And then loathsome US style garbage about "service" and country.

No!!! The absolute monsters.

This is absolute rubbish and not my experience at all

Your statement actually shows that what I have said isn't rubbish?

What prompted you to write something so evidently untrue.

The whole point of the thread was saying this was my experience

Others have managed to contribute to the thread about what their experience has been. Some the same some not.

What prompted such an over wrought statement which is implying I am lying.

I wont be so petty as to get MNHQ to delete it.

But unless you can somehow transport yourself to my home and shadow me and experience the past fews hours of today you are the one talking rubbish.

And even if I wasn't (and PPs have shared similar) whatever made you so adament about trying to claim it couldn't be true.

Really, really weird reaction.

Do you think all the others who have also received this mass produced document are also lying.

Or are you under the impression that your experience is the only other one, and the rest of us should just pretend we didn't experience something that did actually happen to us.

Hopefully we can go back to how the thread was developing with different experiences and some that chime.

It have been quite informative.

Not monsters, but just an example of how UK politics have turned into the banal posture politics of the US as portrayed in the media.

And as well answered by a PP not applicable to electing a candidate who is asking to be elected to represent a constituency.

Empty tub thumbing US style has led to Farge being taken seriously as a politician and as revealed by yesterday's events leads to the narrow minded bigotry caught by C4 news.

Can you upload a photo of the leaflet you have received OP?

There's a lot of shite doing the rounds at the moment but people get a better idea of what's really happening, leaflet -wise when photos are uploaded. As otherwise it's just a load of digital bumf that is Is created in under 20 secs. Or not even that.. something that is alluded to but never ascertained.

I'm sure you will be aware.

If you upload a photo that will give some credibility for Mumsnet FWR to go from and discuss. It's very easy to photograph and upload now.

The one I find weird is all the orange boards on sticks and window posters saying "Liberal Democrats Winning Here".

I feel sort of like, if I maybe wasn't that into politics but I'd quite like the Lib Dem to win, I might see those and think, "Oh okay, if they're going to win, I don't need to bother going to vote, happy days". And if I really didn't want the Lib Dem to win, it could only galvanise me to get out and vote against them to try and stop it happening. As a slogan it seems… potentially counterproductive?

(Also their posters always say that, and they never bloody win, so it comes across deluded and arrogant to boot.)

That's what I'm doing.

Through gritted teeth, mind.

The only way to get the Tories out is to vote tactically and in my area that means labour. To vote any other way is to waste my vote.

I'd have spoiled my ballot instead of that actually did anything but it doesn't. They don't give a shit what you write on it or do to it. They simply discount it.

I'm in SW Wales. I've had a communication exactly the same. You had to search for the candidate's name and it was all about Starmer. Our Labour candidate is one of Starmer's parachute boys whereas the Cons has majority of 5k and has lived here all his life, MP for 20 years. Labour man predicted to win but I really hope he doesn't. His only connection to area is mum has holiday home.

I'm voting tactically for Lib Dem, and my teeth are really suffering for it too, IncompleteSenten. The advantage over having to vote tactically for Labour is, I suppose, that successfully voting in a Lib Dem would get rid of the Tory MP, but almost certainly won't help put the Lib Dems in government.

I'm in a new constituency made up of parts of two very Tory constituencies. My old constituency was Tory from the time it was created in the 80s until its replacement this year. In fact you have to go back to 1906 to find the last time the constituency my town is located in voted for a non-Tory MP. And there seems to be a reasonable chance that we might do it again for the first time in over a century, so I feel I have to try and help that happen. But it means voting Lib Dem, which for obvious reasons sits very badly with me. Ugh. It's horrible, isn't it?

Our household also had a bland Labour leaflet; hardly anything on it about the person standing. In contrast, the LibDems and Cons leaflets had much more information about themselves and their plans for the local area. The Reform one was similar to the Labour one and ended in the bin. The Labour one, I ended up researching the Labour candidate and still could not find much about her so that was disappointing. I did wonder if Starmer HQ was exerting control over how local candidates could promote themselves but maybe the candidate is in such awe of Starmer that she doesn't feel the need to say much about herself? Either way I don't think its a good look and that leaflet ended up in the recycling bin too. As much as I want change, I cannot vote for Labour; am still mulling over what to do at the moment.

Leaflets can have the effect of being very irritating if they are pitched not quite right.

I agree with you OP. I think people are voting labour to get the tories out. Not because Starmer and his plans are good. Our labour candidate (I have the postal vote ballot paper) is the only one whose address is nowhere near our constituency.

people can think what they want ideologically about the private school debate, but the fact that the proposed tax is against EU law and could only go ahead as we have brexited ought to really make people think twice about what labour will hammer through with a large majority.

I don’t object to paying more tax to help the NHS or education - but Starmer’s ways of raising money are almost illegal.

Well I got exactly the same letter as the op and I'm in Scotland.
Oh I should add it didn't even mention the snp

I'm really quite incensed at the pp above who implied that op and the rest of us have made this up.

I've redacted the name of the candidate and constituency to keep my location private. Everything is exactly as op described, including describing my female mp as "them" [penultimate para]

In fairness though, I've since had a leaflet more personally about the candidate. I think I will vote for her, for the reasons I described above

Oops I didn't redact it everywhere! Nevermind

I didn’t say you’d made it up. It’s just that I’ve delivered 1,000s of leaflets during this election for the Labour Party in this election and none are as you describe. I can only conclude that candidates and their agents have leeway to make their own choices about what to share.

My partner had exactly the same leaflet @Temporaryanonymity - not in the areas mentioned.

We've had both. One from Kier and a few from our local MP. Seems fine to me, you are after all in some way having to balance voting for local and national issues

I did also get one from Rishi, so it's not just Labour sending them out. The only thing I've had from the local Tory candidate is an old fashioned style poster saying "Kier Starmer needs you" and then in smaller writing listing some points about how awful he was. Trouble is, unless you actually made the effort to read it properly it looked like another pro labour leaflet 😂😁really bad design. No content at all about who out Tory candidate was or what they will do