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The Guardian has a request for female voters to tell them what issues will decide their vote

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MotherOfCatBoy · 27/06/2024 13:32

Not sure if it’s worth responding as God knows what they will choose to print, but perhaps worth 5 mins.

www.theguardian.com/politics/article/2024/jun/26/female-voters-in-the-uk-share-which-issues-will-decide-your-vote-this-general-election

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SidewaysOtter · 28/06/2024 13:03

I’ve responded, if only to state for their record that I’m an ex Labour voter who is not voting Labour because of their stance on women. To counteract the “it’s all right wingers” narrative.

YellowAsteroid · 28/06/2024 17:51

Just bumping this.

After @JanefromLondon 's hit on Radio 5 Live today, and her question & the Labour Party's non-answer is all over Twitter, let's tell the Guardian what we think.

Gosh it makes me angry (and sad) that we have to take these actions to call the left of politics to account and keep women's sex-based rights on track. Whodathunkit?

MotherOfCatBoy · 28/06/2024 18:37

Done. Tried to get across that this is an issue for all women. That Labour have behaved shamefully to Rosie Duffield. That policy in Scotland failed and they need to learn. Let’s see.
I did also say that despite this, I will still vote Labour. But they disappoint me.

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ArabellaScott · 02/07/2024 15:13

They sure are! I hope the politicians are listening.

ArabellaScott · 02/07/2024 15:14

'“However, the final straw for me is the issue of women’s rights,” she added.
Sharon was one of hundreds of women who shared that sex-based rights for women and girls was a main political concern of theirs this election.
Women from across the country, dozens of them economically disadvantaged or with disabilities, said they would abandon Labour, the Lib Dems or the Greens over this issue and vote either Conservative, Reform or spoil their ballot – particularly women from marginal areas Labour is hoping to gain, such as Lincoln, Darlington, Derbyshire, Warrington North and Truro and Falmouth.
Various said they felt “politically homeless” because of this issue, with Starmer having repeatedly referred to the debate over trans rights as “divisive and toxic” culture wars.
“This isn’t a culture war,” said Kerri Clarke, a 46-year-old stay-at-home mother from Hertfordshire. “I’ll be voting Conservative for the first time in my life, as the child of Labour activists.”
Clarke worries that the current Labour party is “utterly uninterested in women, our rights to safety and dignity”.
“This is about supporting our sisters in prisons and women’s shelters,” said Anne, 61, from Burnley, Labour’s “most winnable seat”.
Having always voted Labour, Anne said she might abstain for the first time unless she heard something positive from Labour on the protection of women’s and girls’ “safety and opportunities” this week.
Tracy, from Kent, in her 40s and usually a Labour voter, is likely to spoil her ballot. “I want to vote Labour but I can’t bear to support a party that so struggles to define the word woman.
“There are some contexts where biological sex matters, and women’s rights have been affected in recent years by a failure of law and policy to recognise this. Starmer wants this to go away, but it’s not going to go away.”'

Gender, poverty, violence: all matter to women, and all must matter to Labour | Natasha Walter

The 14 grinding years of Conservative rule have been devastating for too many women

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/article/2024/jun/29/gender-poverty-violence-all-matter-to-women-and-all-must-matter-to-labour

PepeParapluie · 02/07/2024 15:24

I’m in slight disbelief they published that!

terryleather · 02/07/2024 15:45

PepeParapluie · 02/07/2024 15:24

I’m in slight disbelief they published that!

So am I!

LiterallyOnFire · 02/07/2024 15:49

Done.

redsplodge · 02/07/2024 15:55

terryleather · 02/07/2024 15:45

So am I!

Me too - but especially surprised at the headline. A range of issues are mentioned and out of those they chose to go with that headline. The Guardian! Good job I was sitting down when I read it.

MotherOfCatBoy · 02/07/2024 16:08

That’s not bad at all! Pretty fair article with a good range of views. Glad they published those paragraphs!

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LiterallyOnFire · 02/07/2024 16:09

Me too - but especially surprised at the headline. A range of issues are mentioned and out of those they chose to go with that headline. The Guardian! Good job I was sitting down when I read it.

The subeditor must be GC/old school/rational.

user1471538275 · 02/07/2024 16:14

Well done The Guardian for listening and actually printing people's concerns.

redsplodge · 02/07/2024 16:15

Another article from The Guardian on a similar topic from the same journalist, GC views get another mention.

theilltemperedclavecinist · 02/07/2024 16:45

I'm so heartened by the fact that there were hundreds of women saying it, and also noted with interest the use of the term 'trans-identified'. Doesn't the Graun usually just say 'trans'?

Wumblewimble · 02/07/2024 21:34

It's a cynical last minute attempt to get women's votes. You know the bigoted non men they've been telling to shut up for years

biddyboo · 03/07/2024 09:54

The journalist who wrote the article is great 😃

The Guardian has a request for female voters to tell them what issues will decide their vote
RoyalCorgi · 03/07/2024 09:57

user1471538275 · 02/07/2024 16:14

Well done The Guardian for listening and actually printing people's concerns.

I imagine they were so overwhelmed with responses from women mentioning this that they couldn't ignore them entirely. I note that the section on women's concerns about gender were immediately followed by a paragraph about someone who was supposedly concerned about their trans child.

CantDealwithChristmas · 03/07/2024 11:15

PepeParapluie · 02/07/2024 15:24

I’m in slight disbelief they published that!

It can only mean that the response on this issue was so overwhelming that they could not ignore it.

MyCatHatesSandals · 03/07/2024 11:30

Too fucking little; too damned late.

myotherdogisadonkey · 03/07/2024 11:33

You can hear wee Talcum LOJ's tantrum from down here !😂

CantDealwithChristmas · 03/07/2024 11:58

myotherdogisadonkey · 03/07/2024 11:33

You can hear wee Talcum LOJ's tantrum from down here !😂

He'll be getting busy whippoing up more letters complaining about terfy colleagues to Mama Kath

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