Did Keir Starmer just say

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To Nick Ferrari on LBC that transwomen with a GRC will not be allowed in female single-sex spaces? It sounded like it. Is this a clear move or does it still leave wriggle-room? I’m not sure.

Thank you, tff he at all seems right and I agree Cowardly Keir is a fitting name.

I am not sure why Tony is Holy in anyway though.

He was willing in 2004, together with his government, to create the legal lie that a man with a penis is a woman for all purposes ( with some exceptions provided someone has the money and time to prove in court that there is a proportionate means and proportionate end for them); and to give them a birth certificate to lie with.

I have been in hospital many times, as a patient and as a visitor. Many of you will have been too.

The idea of a single sex ward has been a myth for decades - in my experience you have mixed wards with single sex bays and separate toilets for M/F. Baths and showers are generally for use by either sex if they are single occupancy. I genuinely don’t have a problem with this.

I have also been a patient where a BAY was mixed sex but this was a surgical assessment unit where we were all pretty sick and just had to be put somewhere before moving on. This didn’t bother me either and the men in there were actually very respectful. Not ideal, but an extreme situation I’m sure.

I have been treated intimately by both men and women. Would it bother me if one was trans? Yes, I think it would because I just don’t ‘get’ why people feel the need to be trans, but that’s my issue, not theirs. I have four friends who have adult trans children in their 30s, 40s, 50s and 60s so I am acquainted with trans people, and they are great, but I wouldn’t want them in my intimate space, that would feel weird.

Anyhow, I’ve voted Labour by post today as we’ve got to do something to get the bastard Tories out and splitting the vote to the minority parties won’t help. Best of a bad job.

He was willing in 2004, together with his government, to create the legal lie that a man with a penis is a woman for all purposes ( with some exceptions provided someone has the money and time to prove in court that there is a proportionate means and proportionate end for them); and to give them a birth certificate to lie with.

The exceptions aren't in the Gender Recognition Act 2004, though. They are in the Equality Act 2010 - after one or two teensy problems had been spotted. (Slight sarcasm there.)

The GRA just has the infamous Section 9 "Where a full gender recognition certificate is issued to a person, the person's gender becomes for all purposes the acquired gender (so that, if the acquired gender is the male gender, the person's sex becomes that of a man and, if it is the female gender, the person's sex becomes that of a woman)."

And they're so proud of it.

What a mistake of a law

The GRA just has the infamous Section 9 "Where a full gender recognition certificate is issued to a person, the person's gender becomes for all purposes the acquired gender

Even that wasn't all purposes. Not if inheritance of a title was involved.

Except for the peerages stuff...where they absolutely did not want the GRC to mean a change of sex in law...

Thank you for the correction that the exceptions are (supposed to be) in the Equality Act.

BBCQT… Kier Starmer answered the question about the abuse of Rosie Duffield with a bit of whataboutery by referring to Sunak “making a trans joke in front of the mother of a murdered trans teenager.”

Message to KS from - I suspect - many women who want to vote Labour but doubt their commitment to upholding the rights of women as a sex class: when we ask questions about women, about the abuse of women, about the silencing of women we are not asking for a monologue about how vulnerable trans people are. We are asking what you will do to uphold the rights of women as a sex class. And every time you ignore the questions women ask about their concerns to re-centre the conversation on trans issues, more women question Labour’s commitment to uphold women’s rights.

He uses that poor child's murder every time he's in a difficult situation about his & Labour's treatment of Rosie. Using a murdered child to deflect attention away from his lack of moral courage is worrying behaviour for a potential prime minister.

I saw this. It was very telling. He said he agreed with Blair but the question was about Duffield and what she said.

Sounded like the Labour instructions are"FGS don't agree with Rosie, whatever you do".

I thought his handling of the question demeaned Rosie and her experiences within the party. He also didn't answer how he would bring people together/cool it down (the follow up question). Just that he'd be better at it than others, which isn't an answer. He looked a bit panicked at that question.

Didn't he default to that poor child's murder when he was in a similar situation on breakfast TV? I think it was about Rosie's treatment too.

And this guy is going to be our next PM with a majority of 300+. Oh my days.

I can't believe he did that again - I thought that maybe the first time he referred to the murder of that poor child when asked about Rosie Duffield that he was caught on the hop and blurted out the first thing that came into his head. But now we have a second example of him doing it - it's his bloody strategy, innit?! I lose more and more respect for that man every time I see him interviewed.

They call him Captain Flip Flop but he's absolutely dead certain where he stands on the issue of Rosie Duffield and that is off to the side and letting anyone attack her who feels like it, he won't defend her on the issue of women's rights.

I have just had my postal vote arrive, and boy was it depressing.
I don't ENJOY being in that "can't unsee it now" state that do many of us are in. I don't WANT to spoil my vote.
Nor, right now, do I feel at all like voting for any of the candidates on the sheet.
Uurgh.

The video's in. Despicable.

Hiding behind Tony Blair and the murder of a child to discuss women’s rights is unforgivable.

The abuse @RosieDuffield1 has received from the trans lobby has been disgusting yet this is the best Starmer can offer.

https://twitter.com/JohnJamesNI/status/1803909845449363539?t=WcMMpifXAbwA-VFxF5wDCQ&s=19

Rosie's response

So from now on, I shall be submitting my every comment and thought (particularly those mainstream views which most people agree with) to the former Labour Prime Minister so that it may officially be de-toxified...

https://twitter.com/RosieDuffield1/status/1803902264714604667?t=tPu7vfzMztR7mwnXWIYx9g&s=19

As I feel like I've said for the millionth time, every time he opens his mouth, I like him a little less.

I think it has just dawned on Keir that women can actually vote and that he'd better show he's on our side as well as trans people's.

His response to Tony Blair's statement about women having vaginas and men having penises was hilarious as he stammered out that he agreed with Tony although he didn't know when Tony had said that. He was taken by surprise obviously. He is clearly not to be trusted. He slithers about amongst the discarded principles he once so devoutly espoused. This is the reality if Starmer.

I just want somebody to yell 'What about AGP, Kier?!’ It might delay his sanctimonious lecturing by a second or two as he reboots🙄 He’s very much out of the loop on gender as performed by large sections of Reddit 😏

Referring to Sunak and a murdered child in response to this careful question is just not the decent thing to do and it’s also very much not answering the question. AND, the 'trans' debate was made so heavily toxic by one side who refused to even listen to women asking for their rights and existence to be respected and protected in law.

He has his miminny pimminy weaksauce wee soundbites and he's going to keep replaying them, and throw Rosie Duffield to the wolves.

The question wasn't about Tony Blair.

The question wasn't about Brianna Ghey.

The question was about women, Keir.

Exactly. He’s so shite I’m not sure why many on here rate him

What kind of answer is that?

Manages to br both clunky and waffly at the same time?

It's a frankenstein answer of butchered soundbites hastily sellotaped together. AI could do better.

He just hears a certain word and responds as trained. Rabbit eyes and panic.

He’s twisting plus clueless. Irritating af

It's a frankenstein answer of butchered soundbites hastily sellotaped together.

This is excellent. The kind of assessment I'd love to see in MSM!