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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Trans TikToker who exposed their breasts at the White House is accused of sexual assault

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NonCrimeHakeIncident · 17/06/2024 22:14

https://reduxx.info/trans-identified-male-who-exposed-his-breasts-at-the-white-house-now-accused-of-sexually-assaulting-another-transgender-person/

By their ex partner, who is FTM trans.

Trans-Identified Male Who Exposed His Breasts At The White House Now Accused Of Sexually Assaulting Another Transgender Person - Reduxx

The trans activist who received criticism for exposing his augmented breasts at the White House during a Pride event last June has now been accused of sexual assault. The alleged victim is a biological female who identifies as a “man.” Rose Montoya, 28...

https://reduxx.info/trans-identified-male-who-exposed-his-breasts-at-the-white-house-now-accused-of-sexually-assaulting-another-transgender-person/

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Takenoprisoner · 18/06/2024 16:52

thanks both @Hoardasurass and @Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g .

Has this individual been investigated for the alleged rapes of Diamond? What a messed up world we live in, but the tide is definitely turning.

Hairyesterdaygonetoday · 18/06/2024 17:03

EdenPalmersTerfAuntie · 18/06/2024 06:36

Why are women talking about rape? Goddess knows! Would you rather we went back to discussing knitting patterns while men usurp everything women have fought for?
Why are you on Mumsnet?

Why are you on Mumsnet?

To try to dominate women. Sooooo unsuccessfully.

MiddleAgedAndBloodyTired · 18/06/2024 18:26

Oh my goodness raping someone recovering from major surgery. I can’t think of many things more evil than that. Hope the victim has good people in his life to help recover. Why isn’t the rapist in prison already… seems to have done this to a few trans men ?

Toseland · 18/06/2024 18:33

I remember seeing him playing with his new boobs on the White House lawn - it was like the end of civilisation to me!

izimbra · 18/06/2024 18:43

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 17/06/2024 22:19

We are told this sort of thing never happens. So when women here come across news reports of exactly this kind of thing happening, i.e. transactivists trying to get rid of single sex services and spaces and bei g accused or convicted of sex offences and violence, these rare events are reported here. Several times a week. Hmm

No we're not.

TicklishLemur · 18/06/2024 19:27

MiddleAgedAndBloodyTired · 18/06/2024 18:26

Oh my goodness raping someone recovering from major surgery. I can’t think of many things more evil than that. Hope the victim has good people in his life to help recover. Why isn’t the rapist in prison already… seems to have done this to a few trans men ?

Probably because the victims have been gaslit into believing the rapist is the vulnerable one. The victim has already deleted some of her posts because the rapist is being ripped apart (quite rightly) by libs of Tik Tok. As always trans-identified males come first despite trans-identified females supposedly having privilege over them. Never seen a single case where a trans man has sexually assaulted a trans woman but there are millions going the other way.

Helleofabore · 18/06/2024 19:28

Just a note for readers. In the article, it clearly states that the female victim of the rape, Diamond, has met another female person who was abused or assaulted by this same man, Montoya.

She also claimed that she was not the only female who identifies as a “man” that Montoya has abused or assaulted.
“Elijah, the other known victims, and I just want the cycle of abuse to stop,” Diamond wrote on X at the end of her thread.

This rapist is some who has been celebrated at the highest level in the USA.

ArabellaScott · 18/06/2024 19:33

Same thing happened with Lily Madigan, accused of sexual assault. The women who'd accused him then closed ranks and defended him rather than risk damaging the cause.

ArabellaScott · 18/06/2024 19:49

Tweet from the person who made the allegations:

'My abuser is a part of the community. Message me so I can fill you in so you can warn others. It’s been confirmed that they’ve abused 4 other trans masc folx besides me since 2020'

I won't link as it's very much NSFW, but there is a link to their X in the original article.

TicklishLemur · 18/06/2024 19:52

ArabellaScott · 18/06/2024 19:33

Same thing happened with Lily Madigan, accused of sexual assault. The women who'd accused him then closed ranks and defended him rather than risk damaging the cause.

It’s utterly tragic but I do understand how it comes about. These identities are their whole life and their entire support network belongs to the queer/trans community. The thought of being cast out and left with no one when they need support the most is probably unbearable.

I also think it’s unhelpful that Libs of Tik Tok have posted a video of her criticising phalloplasty (in addition to the one about the rapes - this one focuses only on her). Obviously mutilation needs to be discussed but I don’t think it’s appropriate to use a vulnerable rape victim to do that. She has just done something very brave to help protect other transmen and they don’t seem to care about how they will affect her or her choice to speak out.

TicklishLemur · 18/06/2024 19:54

ArabellaScott · 18/06/2024 19:49

Tweet from the person who made the allegations:

'My abuser is a part of the community. Message me so I can fill you in so you can warn others. It’s been confirmed that they’ve abused 4 other trans masc folx besides me since 2020'

I won't link as it's very much NSFW, but there is a link to their X in the original article.

Edited

So five females have been raped without anyone raising an eyebrow. Yet we hear none stop at the existential threat supposedly posed to trans-identified males.

Helleofabore · 18/06/2024 20:02

ArabellaScott · 18/06/2024 19:49

Tweet from the person who made the allegations:

'My abuser is a part of the community. Message me so I can fill you in so you can warn others. It’s been confirmed that they’ve abused 4 other trans masc folx besides me since 2020'

I won't link as it's very much NSFW, but there is a link to their X in the original article.

Edited

These are very brave to raise the alarm. 5! 5! Female trans people! That we know of.

And at least one of them is bravely speaking out within the community to draw attention to this lauded celebrity rapist. Each one will risk their community in doing so.

This is heart breaking. I hope that they receive the support they need to heal.

It is remarkable though, that this rapist knew exactly who is a female when the time to force sex comes about. I read parts of the messages to Diamond. The reasons why this man gave for raping Diamond are a head fuck. It was all about personal power, about forcing their need.

DeanElderberry · 18/06/2024 20:31

It is also yet another reminder of how like closed religious sub-groups this whole set up is - thinking of the vile Marko Rubnik, among others.

TicklishLemur · 18/06/2024 20:38

Helleofabore · 18/06/2024 20:02

These are very brave to raise the alarm. 5! 5! Female trans people! That we know of.

And at least one of them is bravely speaking out within the community to draw attention to this lauded celebrity rapist. Each one will risk their community in doing so.

This is heart breaking. I hope that they receive the support they need to heal.

It is remarkable though, that this rapist knew exactly who is a female when the time to force sex comes about. I read parts of the messages to Diamond. The reasons why this man gave for raping Diamond are a head fuck. It was all about personal power, about forcing their need.

Yes the part about how Diamond was responsible because refusing sex made Montoya’s dysphoria worse was disgusting. Sorry but how can someone who is supposedly distressed about their genitals be perfectly happy to not only to use them for consensual sex but even to rape? Utter nonsense and another example of an AGP using a debilitating mental illness as an excuse.

I remember years back a case of a transwoman holding down and ejaculating inside a transman because he wanted her to ‘birth his non binary babies’. He had form for wanting to impregnate trans-identified females despite how horrifying a concept that is to most of them. He admitted to the rape but made it all about him and how he had been victimised his whole life. Then he implied the victim was a stalker. The victim posted the real text messages where she had simply asked him to pay for her to get HIV PEP and a sexual health appointment, which he had refused as he didn’t ’have the coin’. This same man (Cherno Biko) was invited to speak at Washington Women’s March.

ArabellaScott · 18/06/2024 21:04

If I understand correctly both accuser and accused work in porn.

Helleofabore · 18/06/2024 21:08

The first time I came across this side of it all was Benji, one of the first detransitioners who was very brave in telling her story. She highlighted how a 'trans youth group' was run by a group of men who indoctrinated the teen girls into trans life. Their thing was that as elder 'women' they offered their experience to guide and support these teens in their journeys to become 'men'. And Benji told us that many of those teens were pressured into sex. But not just sex, and often their first sexual experiences, but kink as well.

And she then told us the stories about how any questioning about anything that could be seen as being negative towards the community received shunning behaviour and even threats of ostracism so that abuse would get covered up or never discussed.

Nothing I have read or heard since has contradicted her account. Rather it has supported it. From Lavery thinking it was so wonderfully freeing to post photos of Lavery's female partner with Lavery's hand shoved as far into Daniel's mouth as it could go, to reports such as Diamond's. This is not a bug, it seems to be a feature.

NotTerfNorCis · 18/06/2024 21:24

By their ex partner, who is FTM trans

God this scenario happens such a lot.

TicklishLemur · 18/06/2024 21:30

See also media darling Eli Erlick who after having his penis amputated moved on to raping trans-identified females with his fist instead. The victims were called TERFs and have been abandoned by their community.

Plus the AMA in feminist chat that I’m not allowed to link to but details pervasive sexual harassment and abuse of female children by middle aged males within trans support spaces. That was met with the silencing and punishing of those children for speaking out but not a single consequence for the adult men.

Really it is no wonder they are too scared to speak out about this problem. Most of these girls and women come from backgrounds of trauma. They are being thrown in with wolves and told an identity will magically keep them safe from sex-based violence.

Trans Activist Accused of Sexual Assault Offering Hormones to Youth - Reduxx

A California-based trans activist offering cross-sex hormones to youth through the internet has a long history of sexual assault allegations, with accusations from multiple victims, including those who were minors at the time, who reported he abused th...

https://reduxx.info/trans-activist-accused-of-sexual-assault-offering-hormones-to-youth/

lady69 · 18/06/2024 22:23

shellyleppard · 17/06/2024 22:15

So why is this on Mumsnet???

The question is, why are you?

INeedAPensieve · 18/06/2024 22:34

This story (and subsequent shared stories of other abusers) is absolutely devastating.

How is this person not in jail? Heartbreaking for the victims.

NonCrimeHakeIncident · 18/06/2024 23:25

I had forgotten about Grace Lavery. They are now in a throuple and the cisgender female of the trio has given birth to a baby. They all work from home in a one bedroom apartment from the sounds of it, with two dogs.

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CantDealwithChristmas · 19/06/2024 12:26

Reduxx does the Goddess's work. From the article:

At the White House event Biden said:

"I see more courage on this lawn than any time I've seen in the recent past"

The White House regularly holds lawn events for disabled veterans. Did Biden honestly dare to say that a rapist is more courageous than a young man or woman who gave their all for their country?

Also...that poor, poor, poor girl. "Like Montoya, Diamond is a well-known trans activist on social media, and has shared her experience with genital surgery where she admitted that there were complications with the attempt to create a “penis” for her.
“It is technically broken but I believe there’s a 98% chance its still functional,” Diamond shared on TikTok in a video that was later reposted by Libs Of TikTok.
Diamond explained on her TikTok that the method of phalloplasty she received was the “semi-ridged rod” which is “broken at the base.” She also described the recovery process as “hell” and stated she was bed ridden and had to learn how to walk again."

She has been botched and motivated by avaricious, Megelian 'doctors'. Then, she was tortured and raped by the man who was supposed to love her. I am insufficiently adept with words to express how angry I sometimes feel at the way vulnerable women are treated in this world.

CantDealwithChristmas · 19/06/2024 12:28

NonCrimeHakeIncident · 18/06/2024 23:25

I had forgotten about Grace Lavery. They are now in a throuple and the cisgender female of the trio has given birth to a baby. They all work from home in a one bedroom apartment from the sounds of it, with two dogs.

Lavery has DESTROYED Mallory Ortberg. He blatantly did it because he was jealous that she was a more talented writer and better known.

Some men just want to act as emotional and spiritual vampires on women and the TRA movement actually enables them to do that.

NonCrimeHakeIncident · 19/06/2024 15:41

CantDealwithChristmas · 19/06/2024 12:28

Lavery has DESTROYED Mallory Ortberg. He blatantly did it because he was jealous that she was a more talented writer and better known.

Some men just want to act as emotional and spiritual vampires on women and the TRA movement actually enables them to do that.

Yep. The 🥝 farmers have threads on GL and some posters on there seem to have more concern for Mallory/Daniel than any flag-waver on the “right side of history”.

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CantDealwithChristmas · 19/06/2024 15:55

NonCrimeHakeIncident · 19/06/2024 15:41

Yep. The 🥝 farmers have threads on GL and some posters on there seem to have more concern for Mallory/Daniel than any flag-waver on the “right side of history”.

Yep I know. the farmers also have more concern and empathy for Jazz jennings than his own parents. Contrary to popular belief, they're good people.