Body language in this interview

[Seriestwo]

this GB news interview between Joanna and Camilla was unsettling but I didn’t know why.

This Twitter poster commented on Joanna’s darting eyes.

Does anyone know what that eye movement might suggest in body language terms? Google says stress, trying to escape or lying.

Is it possible it’s something else? I have an autistic niece and she looks out the corner of her eye, so her eyes can flick, but not quite like this.

Anyone got insight into body language?

Tv interview

A sideways glance is usually used to break eye contact, and can indicate doubt or loss of confidence in what the other person is saying.

But in this case you can't make any inference because you don't know what his camera position is or what's on his screen. He may be looking at multiple images on a split screen, showing the interviewer and his own image.

I saw this interview in full and thought the body language was really odd. At the beginning of the full interview he sticks his tongue partly out and then looks like he is thoroughly enjoying himself, smugly holding back a good laugh throughout. The eyes flicking side-to-side might be reading something on a screen?

There was a repeat of an episode of Mastermind on TV earlier this week. It wasn't me who pointed out the body language issues - it was DH. (It's on iPlayer 2021/22 episode 22).

As the episode goes on, we both were looking at each other going what. It has to be watched to see the point as I think describing it sounds terrible but the imaginary says everything that needs to be said. It's not just about physicality it's also about attitude that it reveals.

I do think this matters because we are supposed to not trust our eyes and what we learn from what we hear and see and the meaning it conveys to us.

There is a huge amount of human communication which isn't verbal but is important to our understanding of a situation.

Body language is most relevant when its two people talking face to face in real life, and reading each other.
The more steps there are between you and the person you are trying to read, the more artificial the situation, the less accurate your reading will be.

As Inebriati says, it doesn't work when it's a filmed interaction, possibly with someone looking at a different screen/camera.

This is a man talking a lot of shit, I wouldn't worry too much about what his eye movements are doing tbh.

Have you ever been on a video call OP? It's very difficult if your webcam is not directly above the screen where everyone else is. The instinct is to look at everyone else's faces but if you do that then you look odd on camera. You need to look into the camera.

In my experience this results in much flicking back and forth.

Why on earth you'd try to ascribe some sort of lying sinister personality to it I've no idea.

I think there's a medical condition that causes your eyes to move constantly from side to side and it's not something that a person can control.

God what a creep.

I was going to say this. It reminds me of someone I know with nystagmus. I'm not saying that it is, but it is a possibility.

I never said sinister. I said it’s odd. That’s not eyes scanning text, they are flicking. Nystagmus’s is an oscillation, that’s not what it is either.

this person is getting more air time and there is something unusual about the non verbal communication that has me confused.

youve got me thinking though, maybe I need to re-read “the gift of fear” to work out why I’m so unsettled by this persons interviews that I asked MN about it.

It looks like the person is reading pre-prepared lines aloud. Have seen similar at work with people giving presentations on videoalls

"If someone 's eyes keep moving when talking to you , it could indicate that they are feeling nervous , distracted , or unsure about what they are saying . It could also mean that they are not fully engaged in the conversation or are trying to hide something"

Yes, an avoidance tactic or way of defending the self. He knows full well why he is not a woman and that sex is a biological category. Total dishonesty.

This is a technique you can use to demonstrate that the women in porn are not actually enjoying the sex; take a piece of paper and hold it over his eyes when he speaks and then replay the vid while covering his mouth, you'll see an apparent disconnect between his facial expression and his eyes. The shape of his cheeks makes it look like he is smiling, but his eyes have little expression or warmth.

Looking to the left:
Glancing to the left suggests that you are remembering facts or having visual thoughts. This is often a good way to check whether someone is telling you the truth. It can also mean that someone is having a conversation with themself internally or is rehearsing their next line.

Looking to the right:
Typically, looking to the right signifies lying. This is because we tend to look to the right when we are imagining things, but towards the left when we are remembering. However, it is also thought that looking to the right and downwards suggests self-doubt, while looking to the right and up indicates that a person is telling untruths.

Looking up:
Glancing upwards often suggests that a person is bored. It may mean that they are looking at their surroundings to find something that stimulates them more than the conversation they are currently having.

Looking down:
If a person looks down when speaking to someone they view as more powerful, it could be a sign of submission or shyness. It can also indicate that they are nervous or hesitant about taking part in the conversation and are avoiding eye contact because of it.

His Left to Right eye movement suggests he's trying to remember the correct script ( to the Left) in response to the fact he knows he's not being truthful ( to the Right)

Yes, he's a total creep...... and is a good example of why women don't want men with fetishes in their private spaces, no matter how "harmless" they think they are.

He is using home equipment such as a lap top, and may be reacting to whatever he is looking at. He's also using home lighting and a home camera.
TV studios have make up and lighting professionals, so they don't make the presenters look like ghouls or mass murderers.

He's not used to looking at a camera - he's on an ipad or a laptop and keeps looking at himself and her on the screen, rather than just looking straight at the camera as she does.

You see it all the time in zoom (or whatever) meetings

Joanna definitely looks like they’re smirking a lot.

That was an interesting watch, thanks for sharing @RedToothBrush

Surely he’s just reading an auto script set up on his computer?

And yet again no doubt of the sex of Joanne, no need to prove it it's blatantly obvious.

Yeah, he just looks like he's scanning the screen repeatedly, probably looking at her then himself.

Does body language/facial expression analysis etc have any scientific foundation or evidence base at all?

Yes, or else it wouldn't be used by police experts, and similar. There is a long history of 'Body Language' studies. Very interesting.

The questions that were posed weren't predictable, though, they were spontaneous. It was a live interview.....so he cannot have been reading from a script. You could see how he was conflicted with every question.....between what is the 'corerect response' and what he secretly knows to be true - hence the continual left -right shifting eyes.

You can experiment wih this using your own automatic body language in response to certain types of mental cue. For example - imagine a past event in your life; you will find you eyes move to the left ( and downwards too - if a sad memory), you eyes may go to the left and slightly upwards if you are actively trying to recall something.....

If you are puposefully lying or trying to hide the truth/full truth of a situation you will not look to the left - but downwards to the right.

We all unconsciously pick up on body language, but you can train yourself to become more conscious of it. We all know when we just don't trust someone but cannot explain why; or that someone gives us the creeps.....

I also think that his eyes are constantly checking two different areas of the screen, his image and Camilla’s, like many of us do when we go on zoom.

it is true that we all tend to look down on the left to access memories (check it out on yourself), but looking to the right does not mean you are lying.

There is no single gesture that universally shows one is not telling the truth, like scratching your nose or averting a gaze. These gestures could be normal to you, your baseline. When we lie we often feel stressed about it because our brains are working twice as hard and we don’t want to get caught, obviously. So what indicates lying is those stress signals and a deviation of your baseline, doing things you don’t normally do. Increased blinking can be caused by this stress or by the brain kind of whirring like a machine while we work extra hard to tell a lie. Body movements like a caged animal (rocking side to side on your legs), staring at the interviewer, talking about “what happened” instead of what you did (distancing) etc can all be signs of guilt or lying, but they need to be read in a cluster and deviations of the persons baseline.

Joana here is just checking himself on the screen and smirking because in my opinion, he’s highly amused by Camilla’s outrage.