Body language in this interview

[Seriestwo]

this GB news interview between Joanna and Camilla was unsettling but I didn’t know why.

This Twitter poster commented on Joanna’s darting eyes.

Does anyone know what that eye movement might suggest in body language terms? Google says stress, trying to escape or lying.

Is it possible it’s something else? I have an autistic niece and she looks out the corner of her eye, so her eyes can flick, but not quite like this.

Anyone got insight into body language?

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I'd say looking to the right suggest uncertainty and guardedness over either what you are saying, or what you are hearing.

I don't think the interviewer seemed outraged - she just couldn't believe his utter cheek or nerve. He's clearly a man. Does he really think we are so stupid as to pretend not to notice?

@Seriestwo I would love to hear more about the book your mentioned - the gift of fear - would you like to share?

The Gift of Far is by Gavin du Becker. It’s quite an old book now, about “trust your gut”, that people who miss or ignore social cues can become victims. He is looking at big crimes like celebrity stalking or kidnapping - but there are parallels with just wandering around the world while being female.

thanks for all the insights, you made me realise there is something about Joanna that makes my gut talk to me. I posted because I think that my brain warns me, like my kids do, that maybe I am becoming transphobic.

I am so angry about the loss of women’s rights and being repeatedly told that my views are old fashioned that I worry that I am starting to resent all trans people. I’ve been thinking about it and sure that I’m not, it is that there is something unsettling about the way this particular person behaves in the interviews I’ve seen which is similar to the way a similar person behaves in my professional life.

it might simply be the gap between me seeing someone who is male and them insisting that they are like me.

I find it unnerving when people like Joanna say that they pass, that no one has ever had a problem with them in our spaces etc, I don’t think I’m alone in thinking “yes, mate, we leave and don’t say anything to you because we see threat”

whatever it is, it makes something go on in my gut.

Body language is a tool and like any other tool it can be misused. This interview is not a police interview and posters here are not trained interrogators.

There are no reliable indicators for lying. If you've been told that, you have been lied to.
When peoples eyes move to the right it might be because they don't have any memories to draw on. Thats not proof they are lying. It might even indicate deception and still not be lying; it has to be read within the context of the situation.

Well, if a man says he is a woman, then obviously he is lying, because changing sex simply isn't possible.

So there is that.

Exactly.

@Seriestwo thank you... I can understand you questioning yourself... I often think that those who question their own thinking, repeatedly, and read, inform themselves and still hesitate to pronounce themselves 100% right are much more right than those that are 100% sure of themselves and their opinions. It is good to go back and reassess your opinions, the positions you take, your belief, rather than blindly going forward in the full belief that you are 100% right - because no one is 100% right on anything, ever!

I think he was revelling in his silly arguments, knowing fine well that they made no sense, but thinking he'd got one over on her. He was definitely trying to dominate and not discuss, with his ridiculous claims that nobody knew if Camilla's a woman or not.

If I was blind, I'd hear a man, if I was deaf, I'd still see a man, for that's what was in front of us.

Camilla had several facial tics, indicating - "Fuck's sake, have you heard yourself? Nobody believes you, you fool. I'm sure even you don't believe you!" She seemed to be exasperated, with the feeling that she was dealing with an overgrown toddler.