SNP set up new NHS Child Gender Clinic

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https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2024/06/04/trans-rights-activist-help-snp-set-nhs-child-gender-service/

Is it really possible that seemingly intelligent humans can dismiss the Cass report in it’s entirety and ignore the harms that puberty blockers cause?

Yes it is. Stupid and cruel.

The SNP do what they like. Especially if it is in opposition to Westminster. They are a captured cult.

It would seem that adherence to ideology rather than a desire for accurate medical knowledge for treating children was all that was important to them in the end.

This last 10 years has been a ringside seat for me in watching seemingly intelligent humans ignore things they don’t like on a wide range of topics affecting our society.

I was an SNP member. I quit on the grounds that they were failing to safeguard women and children. They’ve lost my vote.

This is because NHS England and NHS Scotland are separate entities. It was banned in England, but not in Scotland.

But yes, it's horrific and cruel.

Oh of course they are 🙄

Honestly the SNP are dead to me now. Absolute shower of numpties. Also incompetently evil in my opinion. Dr Cass was at the Scottish parliament not long ago!!! Who is signing this off? I despair of my country. The GE means they will lose seats thankfully, but it doesn't sound as if Labour are going to be any better (who are likely to get in). Keir Starmer making no attempt to speak up about Cass makes me suspicious. I know that's an entirely different thread but I am starting to genuinely think KS is a Tra and women's rights and children's safety and safeguarding will be stripped further after the GE. Not that the Tories have been helpful at all anyway. Ugh.

It makes me wonder about culpability. You could- just- prior to the Cass Report say that you didn't know, but post it?
We're already starting to see legal cases brought by destransitioners. I wonder how far that liability would extend.
Post-Cass, no one involved in this could say that they didn't know.

I thought the temporary ban on puberty blocker and hormone prescribing applied to the entire UK?

I live in Scotland and loathe the SNP. They are a bloody cult and terrible at governance, excellent at wasting money. They could run a chimpanzee in a yellow jacket with rosette in some parliamentary areas and get them in. 😩

Their attitude seems to be if it comes out of Westminister they want the opposite.

I hope this clinic can only offer counselling snd there is rigorous oversight by other NHS clinicians. The TRAs should be barred from employment in these places, but how could that be achieved??

This is just utter nonsensical. There is agree that conversion therapy should be banned for homosexuals adults, yet it OK to experiment on children with hormonal drugs.

The world has gone mad. The lunatics are running a muck.

I do worry about the standard of counselling available. I know someone who only decided that they were trans after seeing a counsellor. (The reality is that they were a gender non-conforming teenage girl. In fact, in my youth they wouldn't even have been considered gender non-conforming - they eschewed make-up and wore their hair short.)

This may be the first time in my life that I'll refuse to vote. Can't bring myself to vote Tory and I don't trust the rest on gender issues.

I never thought that it would come to this.

Me neither. I think my DH will be voting Labour because I just don't think he could fathom not voting at all and despite my constant rants he's not quite there yet in believing me at how bad it is. I'm looking at the independents in my area to see what they are like. But yep, since this is an SNP stronghold already and likely to swing to Labour since it used to be Labour I doubt it will make a difference. There are a few towns near me that are very orange walk supportive (another ugh) so maybe there will be a few Tories since the Tories in Scotland are seen as the union party for those type of voters. However I don't see it making a difference in terms of policy changes if the whole of the UK is going to change to Labour.

In my day she’d have been called a tomboy. As I was! It’s mad that the acceptable boundaries of ‘female’ behaviour have been narrowed so much, and if girls don’t do ‘femininity’ ‘properly’ then clearly they can’t actually be girls.

Its enraging, and panders to the evangelical right wing and it’s reactionary notions around gender stereotypes.

rah!

Same.

I much preferred "Boys' stuff."

I was into DC Comics rather than The Bunty, etc. (Though I did love the "Valda" stories in the The Mandy.)

Played at Cowboys and Indians plus Spacemen...

I recall that I was 16 when I plucked my eyebrows. My mother's helpful comment was "Well, finally!"

The Valda stories were brilliant and were the only reason I could be persuaded to read a girl’s comic when I was a young girl 👍👍 I loved reading Spiderman, Thor, Captain America, Action Man, Asterix, and Superman comics when I could get my hands on them.

Your post basically described my childhood - I wanted Action Man and Star Trek toys but kept being given Sindy and Tiny Tears dolls instead 🙄🤦‍♀️

I have no idea who I'm going to vote for. Our previous MP was SNP but historically we're Labour, ex mining town.
Someone came to the door to canvass for the Labour candidate and I asked about her policies re women and girls' spaces. They had no idea.
The Tories would never get in here and I'd feel sick voting for them. I'm politically homeless.

@weebarra I@WearyAuldWumman I am really toyed with the idea of voting for the Alba party. Not that I expecting them to win. I think the SNP.
walk it in my constituency. It more a protest vote in hope that the SNP will move away from woke nonsense.

I think that few people will vote for Alba.

I lived in Neale Hanvey's constituency for a while. He's a good man.

That's it!

I recall begging the boys at school for a read of their Star Trek annuals.

Mum asked what I wanted for Christmas one year. I showed her the "Red Indian Outfit" [Apologies - it was the 1960s and that's what was on the box.) in the local toyshop window.

It had a waist coat, trousers...and the real object of my affection - a bow.

Christmas morning: I got a waistcoat, skirt and a blooming headband with fake pigtails attached.

As soon as the Christmas break was over, I emptied my piggy bank, sneaked out to Woolie's and bought myself a plastic bow and arrow set. (Suckers on the arrows.)

Just to add - I used to be able to get DC comics (out of order) in a High Street newsagent.

Got home one day - Mum had thrown them out! Yikes!

One day I was was watching one of those programmes about collectibles. This was the late '70s, by then. One of the featured comics was a Batman comic with Batgirl on the front cover. Fifty quid. One of the comics Mum had thrown out. weeps

This will be the first time I dont vote. I also toyed with Alba but they're not standing in my central scotland constituency. The Labour candidate is a geordie and a councillor in south england. She has never lived in our constituency and is not here campaigning. Even if I was inclined to vote for labour how could she possibly be a good constituency MP? I hate that kind of party politics that rewards loyalty over constituents interests. Labour can go swing.

Actually, if Kate Forbes had become leader I would have voted for a reformed SNP. As it is they're beyond help. Arrogant and ineffective is a dangerous combination.

Is the photo from an angle fortuitously missing the infamous 'KILL ALL TERFS' sign behind SNP MSPs, or is it just that protestors for 'trans rights' like congregating around the Concert Hall steps?

@WearyAuldWumman Just done a bit of research and the Alba party aren’t putting a candidate forward in my constituency.

There is an independent candidate who opinion is spot on when it comes to the gender debate.

https://www.sallyhughes.blog/

I'm massively envious of your toy bow and arrow set. I tried to make my own as a weeun but couldn't get enough tension in the bowstring lol and then mammy caught me trying to make arrows and skelped me 😂

The similarities in our personal histories show that some kids just don't fit into the narrow boxes that society has drawn around girls and boys. Things seemed to have improved for a while in that tomboys were a common feature of films and telly and books in the 80s-90s, but now the stereotypes are back in full force. No wonder there are so many girls still feeling constrained by it all.

These people are utterly evil. Those poor children. I hope that the UK government will force a nationwide set of standards to protect them. I don’t know how politicians can live with themselves for pushing the sterilisation and sexual mutilation of vulnerable autistic, abused and gay children. Surely protecting children shouldn’t be party political!