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Starmer stabs anothe Black female Labour candidate in the back

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IwantToRetire · 30/05/2024 01:41

“I think the Labour Party… needs to be a broad church - from what I can see that’s happening, that’s becoming more difficult”

Faiza Shaheen, who was set to stand for Labour, says her candidacy was pulled over liking a series of Tweets which she claims Labour said would frustrate its campaign

Interview on newsnight shorty after learning she has been deselected.https://x.com/BBCNewsnight/status/1795942561258889318

It seems someone has been going through candidates tweet accounts going back years, even before they were officially part of Labour.

If these tweets were so awful how come they were ever chosen as candidates in the first place.

She had spend the afternoon canvassing with the support of the local party. https://www.faizashaheen.co.uk/

Faiza Shaheen — Labour Candidate for Chingford and Woodford Green

Official website for Faiza Shaheen, the Labour candidate for Chingford and Woodford Green.

https://www.faizashaheen.co.uk

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IwantToRetire · 04/06/2024 18:57

Meant to add this.

“Since the Conservatives won power in 2010, I have used all the tools available to me – from my research to my activism – to fight them on public spending cuts, inequality and divisive narratives. That is why to leave the Labour Party now, on the cusp of finally seeing the Tories out of government and a time when I should be celebrating, is crushing.”

Ms Shaheen added that she was dropped as a candidate through a “sham process” and for “spurious reasons”.

She said she had suffered “unfair treatment, bullying and hostility” within the party.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/faiza-shaheen-labour-party-quit-racism-news-b2556437.html

Blocked Faiza Shaheen quits Labour accusing party of a ‘hierarchy of racism’

Left-winger had been due to fight the Chingford and Woodford Green seat against former Tory leader Iain Duncan Smith and is now free to stand as an independent

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/faiza-shaheen-labour-party-quit-racism-news-b2556437.html

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duc748 · 04/06/2024 21:31

Well, if you will go getting photo-shots with Jeremy Corbyn... 😛

Him being the Antichrist, an all... But yeah, the Labour Party will be anything but a 'broad church' from now on.

TempestTost · 04/06/2024 22:43

duc748 · 04/06/2024 11:35

And, more generally, not just in politics. To what extent is it OK, for example, for prospective employers to trail through your (sometimes distant) SM history to determine whether you're 'suitable'? The world and his dog seem to think they have the right to go Inch-High Private Eye these days. It's a trend I don't like.

I hate it and I think it needs to be largely illegal.

In politics it is a bit different though and I think harder to deal with. They are choosing candidates for their beliefs, integrity, and appeal to the public. And arguably the public has a right to know the people they are electing.

duc748 · 04/06/2024 23:28

Sure, yes, if you're aspiring to public office. Not unreasonable to think you should be held to rather higher standards. But even there, I'd say there should be limits.

TempestTost · 04/06/2024 23:48

duc748 · 04/06/2024 23:28

Sure, yes, if you're aspiring to public office. Not unreasonable to think you should be held to rather higher standards. But even there, I'd say there should be limits.

I agree, I'm just not sure what they are.

Social media is so tricky, because it really fuzzy what is public and what is private.

There was a big controversy where I lived a few years ago about a group of students in a professional program at our local university. There had been leak somehow of a conversation on an online group where they said some quite inappropriate things about some female students.

It caused a huge controversy, and a big part of it was around the fact that the group was private - someone leaked a transcript of the conversation iirc. So the students involved had no expectation that anyone, much less the women they were talking about, would ever hear any of it. In a way it was the equivalent of a conversation in someone's dingy basement rec room.

But it was spun as being not only immature and dick-headed, but threatening and "unsafe".

I couldn't help but feel it crossed a line in terms of essentially someone overhearing a private conversation. And people are allowed to be complete dicks in private conversations. It starts to get into difficult precedent when you then go so far as to expel students like this on the basis of that, which is what a lot of people wanted.

duc748 · 05/06/2024 00:38

Yes, absolutely that. People should be allowed to be complete dicks in private conversations. We shouldn't be the fucking Stasi.

IwantToRetire · 05/06/2024 00:51

duc748 · 04/06/2024 21:31

Well, if you will go getting photo-shots with Jeremy Corbyn... 😛

Him being the Antichrist, an all... But yeah, the Labour Party will be anything but a 'broad church' from now on.

I noticed that, and it is strange that when it suits them the media plays along with the current Labour narrative that even standing on a platform with JC is a crime.

So of course they had to use that photo rather than one of her campaigning, coming close to beating IDS.

Its so transparent.

Grin
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duc748 · 05/06/2024 01:04

Well, my view is that Jeremy Corbyn, despite being mule-headed on a lot of things (Hamas obviously, Brexit) is a fundamentally decent and honest man, who has been hung out to dry by Starmer.

"Well, Sir Keir, when did you first discover that the man you'd served under as Deputy Shadow Leader was an an awful antisemite? Was it just the day before yesterday, or a long time ago?"

Surely that's well into 'fool or knave' territory?

IwantToRetire · 05/06/2024 01:08

duc748 · 05/06/2024 01:04

Well, my view is that Jeremy Corbyn, despite being mule-headed on a lot of things (Hamas obviously, Brexit) is a fundamentally decent and honest man, who has been hung out to dry by Starmer.

"Well, Sir Keir, when did you first discover that the man you'd served under as Deputy Shadow Leader was an an awful antisemite? Was it just the day before yesterday, or a long time ago?"

Surely that's well into 'fool or knave' territory?

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Exactly

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