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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

The general election for feminists

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ArabellaScott · 22/05/2024 18:14

A resource thread for materials, questions, points to make in the run-up to the election:

Sex Matters have a list of things to raise:

'Our election asks

  1. Ensure clear language, rules and data wherever sex matters
  2. Implement the Cass Report and stop transitioning children in schools
  3. Drop dangerous plans to criminalise so-called “conversion therapy”
  4. Make the Equality Act clear
  5. Guarantee women’s right to female-only spaces
  6. Say no to legal gender self-ID
  7. Record sex accurately in healthcare and the criminal justice system
  8. Fix the sex data muddle with modern data systems
  9. Protect women’s sports
  10. Make regulators do their job and protect everyone’s rights.'

https://sex-matters.org/posts/updates/ge2024-stand-up-for-single-sex-services/

GE2024: Stand up for single-sex services - Sex Matters

A summer election has been called. Sex Matters calls for clarity in law and a return to policies based on the objective reality of sex, not the subjective feeling of “gender identity”. Parties must be absolutely clear when it comes to sex-based rights....

https://sex-matters.org/posts/updates/ge2024-stand-up-for-single-sex-services

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Lottelenya · 23/05/2024 08:43

@EasternStandard I will. And posters with a certain slant won’t change that.
And yes if you want validation you were right, my bad. It’s not my niche subject I guess.

EasternStandard · 23/05/2024 08:45

Lottelenya · 23/05/2024 08:43

@EasternStandard I will. And posters with a certain slant won’t change that.
And yes if you want validation you were right, my bad. It’s not my niche subject I guess.

No one is trying to change your mind. You are choosing to engage on the feminist board.

We are discussing the thread topic

teawamutu · 23/05/2024 08:47

Thanks for sharing all this.

Is Sex Matters keeping a register of candidates' responses, does anyone know? Between us all on fwr we must cover every constituency.

ArabellaScott · 23/05/2024 08:50

Floisme · 23/05/2024 08:38

Apologies for my part in the derail.

Could we use this thread to share manifesto information too? I'm not sure when to expect them but I assume it'll be soon. All parties.

Great idea.

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theDudesmummy · 23/05/2024 09:15

Longterm Labour voter, one time Labour Party member. When David Lammy said men can grow a cervix they lost my vote. No idea who I am going to vote for, if there is a socialist standing in my constituency I will probably go for them.

Lottelenya · 23/05/2024 09:15

@EasternStandard ah ok, thanks for the welcome.

BackToLurk · 23/05/2024 09:46

theDudesmummy · 23/05/2024 09:15

Longterm Labour voter, one time Labour Party member. When David Lammy said men can grow a cervix they lost my vote. No idea who I am going to vote for, if there is a socialist standing in my constituency I will probably go for them.

Same, although if the socialist option is some iteration of Galloway's creepy rape apologist, homophobes, that's also a 'no thanks' from me

MinorDisaster · 23/05/2024 10:01

@ArabellaScott thanks for your posts.

Does anyone know if there's a cut-off date to announce prospective candidates? The prospective conservatives in my general area are conspicuous by their absence at the moment.

CandiedPrincess · 23/05/2024 10:02

I will be voting Labour for a variety of reasons but like previous posters, I still want my voice heard on the issues that matter to me. Unfortunately we currently have no candidate in my area so will have to wait and see!

Floisme · 23/05/2024 10:19

I wonder where this will leave the candidates who are currently suspended by their parties.

I think there are a few and it's a cross party thing but, off the top of my head, Diane Abbot for Labour and Alison Teal for the Greens?

ArabellaScott · 23/05/2024 10:42

MinorDisaster · 23/05/2024 10:01

@ArabellaScott thanks for your posts.

Does anyone know if there's a cut-off date to announce prospective candidates? The prospective conservatives in my general area are conspicuous by their absence at the moment.

Good question. I don't know.

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ArabellaScott · 23/05/2024 10:43

Ah, according to that site:

'The official candidate list will be published by 7 June 2024,'

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tellmewhenthespaceshiplandscoz · 23/05/2024 11:15

Apologies I don't wish to derail but this is really really bugging me ...

Discussion of going through hoops to live as a woman, getting a GRC cert being genuine vs someone who decides quite quickly, or around about the time of committing a crime (probably sexual assault) not being genuine ...

To me, if the crux is "living life as a woman" then it still makes no difference. It's all built on sand because this cannot be quantified. It cannot be measure. No one on this planet can give a measure for "living as a woman".

I can have sympathy with the first person, absolutely. But only in that they clearly have a mental illness.

So absolutely we need to fight self if and GRC

tellmewhenthespaceshiplandscoz · 23/05/2024 11:17

I mean what the hell even constitutes proof of living life as a woman? Angry

drspouse · 23/05/2024 11:27

We have planned this as an action in our local Resisters group.

ArabellaScott · 23/05/2024 12:05

I forgot about Reform UK, it's not really a party that I've seen much on as I'm in Scotland.

https://www.reformparty.uk/find-my-candidate

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SabbatWheel · 23/05/2024 12:20

I will be voting Labour owing to a variety of issues and sincerely hope that the vote is not split so that we end up with the worst of all worlds, a hung parliament.

I’m thinking ‘Vote Labour, lobby hard on the GRC issue once they’re in power.’

PronounssheRa · 23/05/2024 12:28

Labour launched their GE campaign in Kent, the county where Rosie Duffields constituency is. She wasn't invited.

https://twitter.com/michaelkeohan/status/1793583173101830275

I'll judge on actions rather than words.

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https://twitter.com/michaelkeohan/status/1793583173101830275

EasternStandard · 23/05/2024 12:31

SabbatWheel · 23/05/2024 12:20

I will be voting Labour owing to a variety of issues and sincerely hope that the vote is not split so that we end up with the worst of all worlds, a hung parliament.

I’m thinking ‘Vote Labour, lobby hard on the GRC issue once they’re in power.’

Good luck

If they don’t listen before they have your vote I doubt they will after getting mandate

But I appreciate those who vote Labour and will try

AudHvamm · 23/05/2024 12:36

Thank you everyone for these resources and pointers. I've been wondering what I can do while also still exercising my right to vote.

crowgift · 23/05/2024 13:08

yes @SabbatWheel that is my approach. The state of public services, child poverty and wealth inequality is such that I will vote Labour and continue to push back against the erosion of women's rights.
I volunteer at a food bank and the demand is like nothing we've seen before.
I also have a vocally pro-trans Conservative MP now, and with noises that pro-trans Mordaunt is tipped to be a future Conservative leader, I don't trust them on this issue at all. I doubt that for the Conservatives this is a principled position, rather it is a cost-free (no public spending required) way to gain on a single issue for now. They had 14 years to sort this out. They haven't.

ArabellaScott · 23/05/2024 13:16

AudHvamm · 23/05/2024 12:36

Thank you everyone for these resources and pointers. I've been wondering what I can do while also still exercising my right to vote.

The lead up to an election is a great time to get involved. Voting is just one part of it. Parties and candidates are out and listening, or at least pretending to listen!

Maybe one of the few times most politicians actually pay much attention to what the electorate thinks/wants/cares about ...

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ResisterRex · 23/05/2024 14:11

PronounssheRa · 23/05/2024 12:28

Labour launched their GE campaign in Kent, the county where Rosie Duffields constituency is. She wasn't invited.

https://twitter.com/michaelkeohan/status/1793583173101830275

I'll judge on actions rather than words.

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LipbalmOrKnickers · 23/05/2024 14:14

Thanks for thread @ArabellaScott