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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

E45 cream makers

52 replies

stuffyoursandbox · 21/05/2024 17:26

Taking comfortable in your own skin literally. Could do without the photo glorifying "top surgery".

e45.com/uk/skin-through-transition/

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Igmum · 21/05/2024 17:45

Oh FFS. DD has various allergies to a fair few creams so we've got a mahoosive pot of E45 in the bathroom. Bugger.

Cazpar · 21/05/2024 17:46

stuffyoursandbox · 21/05/2024 17:26

Taking comfortable in your own skin literally. Could do without the photo glorifying "top surgery".

e45.com/uk/skin-through-transition/

It's a specific page about transitioning and gender reassignment surgery. The photo is not out of place in the context.

stuffyoursandbox · 21/05/2024 17:53

It's the glorifying of it I have an issue with. Obviously helping trans people with skin issues is great but although they are at pains to say it's all research based info it then veers off into saying things like breast binding is ok because some people who do it say it is, to paraphrase.
I do think it is interesting effort as they are outlining some serious issues such as consequences of inadequate hair removal but still normalising breast removal/ binding is not good

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Cazpar · 21/05/2024 18:08

How is it glorifying it? They're quite clear about the (skin related) side effects which can occur.

stuffyoursandbox · 21/05/2024 18:20

I would consider that photo with arms up big smile and mastectomy scars to be glorifying it in my opinion

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DialSquare · 21/05/2024 18:53

Would they show a photo of someone with body integrity identity disorder who had amputated a healthy limb?

LunaNorth · 21/05/2024 18:54

I’ve just seen the advert on telly and came straight here.

wtf?

heldinadream · 21/05/2024 18:59

If you scroll to the bottom of the page there's a pic of someone putting on a breast binder.
The last I heard these were considered to be child abuse.
The whole page is horrific OP, thanks for bringing it to attention. There are certainly a few grounds for complaint but the binder jumped out at me.

Mermoose · 21/05/2024 19:47

Igmum · 21/05/2024 17:45

Oh FFS. DD has various allergies to a fair few creams so we've got a mahoosive pot of E45 in the bathroom. Bugger.

Doublebase Emollient Gel might be a good alternative - DH switched to it from E45 a while ago and thinks it's better.

LunaNorth · 21/05/2024 20:03

This is like Dulcolax advertising to anorexics.

Boiledbeetle · 21/05/2024 20:06

That woman at the bottom with the mastectomy scars would have been better using Bio oil for scars rather than E45 cream. I mean as adverts go you look at that photo and think shit well E45 is going to be crap.

stuffyoursandbox · 21/05/2024 20:19

How can it be anything other than corporate virtue signalling ? E45 will do the same for your skin regardless of gender identity.

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Karensalright · 21/05/2024 20:24

Cazpar · 21/05/2024 18:08

How is it glorifying it? They're quite clear about the (skin related) side effects which can occur.

Well maybe if people left their bodies in the natural state that was designed for them (by their genetics), then they would not need to buy emoluments for skin conditions, generated in the first place.

Of course E45 will have “skin in the game”

DiscoBeat · 21/05/2024 20:29

It really doesn't bother me, I'm all for inclusivity - live and let live.

Teddleshon · 21/05/2024 20:31

Oh geez, I love E45 Bath Oil but need to find an alternative now.

Igmum · 21/05/2024 20:34

Thanks @Mermoose good tip will buy some. Do they also do bath oil for @Teddleshon?

NitroNine · 21/05/2024 20:34

@Igmum Aproderm is vastly superior - specifically, in my opinion, the colloidal oat cream.

Igmum · 21/05/2024 20:40

Thank you @NitroNine

WandsOut · 21/05/2024 20:46

So do they have equally massive sections on other kinds of scars? Mastectomy for breast cancer for example? Caesarian scar?

LunaNorth · 22/05/2024 08:07

WandsOut · 21/05/2024 20:46

So do they have equally massive sections on other kinds of scars? Mastectomy for breast cancer for example? Caesarian scar?

Of course not. Mastectomy scars for breast cancer are so last decade.

AstonScrapingsNameChange · 22/05/2024 08:22

DiscoBeat · 21/05/2024 20:29

It really doesn't bother me, I'm all for inclusivity - live and let live.

'Live and let live' would be them noting that their cream can be helpful for all kinds of scarring, including surgical transistion.

'Glorifying' is having pictures of grinning people looking happy and healthy after having their healthy body parts amputated.

There is a difference.

Mastectomy isn't too be undertaken lightly. A cancer survivor in my family still had nerve damage and itching 10 years later. Its not like having a bit of lip filler or something.

AstonScrapingsNameChange · 22/05/2024 08:23

Any anyway, what about cancer survivors who will find suddenly being confronted with this very triggering?

What are the stats now, something like 1 in 9 (born) women will get bc in their lifetime? That's an awful lot of women likely to be upset by this.

Don't they matter?

NitroNine · 22/05/2024 10:44

Oh dear - it took ages to write my post last night & just realised it reads as if I’m being shady about @Mermoose recommending Doublebase, which wasn’t at all what was meant, sorry! I do prefer the Aproderm to Doublebase (& Zerobase & Lipobase & Ultrabase & Exmabase & Myribase &…) but I wasn’t being mean about her suggestion @Igmum !

@Teddleshon I think for bath oil the obvious switch would be Oilatum - it’s really commonly prescribed, certainly. There’s also Balneum or DoubleBase. If you’ve [dis]liked any of their emollients it should help narrow things.

tallcurvey · 22/05/2024 10:50

@stuffyoursandbox

i think you are on risky ground.
you are saying minority people don’t deserve information and advice.

its a tricky area but this was a specific page .

seems like on this one you are trying just to stir the pot.