What is your definition of TRA?

[Betweenthe2]

Just curious, I am have always read this as someone who is an activist for trans right, but I feel like it is sometimes used on here for anyone who isn't fully GC. What do you mean when you say it?

Someone who is actively pushing for privileging those with novel sexual identities over everyone else.

I'd generally use it to describe a very zealous person who has adopted "trans rights" as their pet cause, above and beyond any other social justice cause they may have adopted. Usually very active on Twitter. Either cheering on their more violent allies or being mealy-mouthed about condemning them. Frequently happy to ostracise or cause (social, emotional, physical) harm to anyone they perceive as a heretic or an infidel.

I wouldn't use the term to refer to Charley in the office who thinks JKR is a little bit mean, or Rob at the nerdy hobby group who has trans friends but doesn't get too involved with the activism side of things.

TRAs are homophobic & misogynist people who put men’s preferences above women’s rights.

Someone who believes TWAW no debate.

Yup, to me has to be an activist or someone kind of pushing about it.

Not just someone who believes in some level of gender ideology.

I agree that they’re activists. Some people think we use “TRA” synonymously with “trans” but that’s not the case at all. Many TRAs aren’t trans and many trans people aren’t TRAs.

Anyone who tries to persuade me its perfectly fine for a man to be a woman and a woman to be a man and that suddenly on saying the four magic words "I am a man" or "I am a woman" that person becomes all sweetness and light and means no harm to anyone, they just want to pee. Even if prior to saying. "I am a woman and my name is Isla" they were a multiple rapist who also watched teenaged girls get undressed.

Agree

But yeah Trans Rights Activists! They aren't the people who sleepwalked into be kind they are the "but they just want to pee" brigade and the ones screaming "fuck you" to women attending a conference.

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TRAs would include anyone who actively pushes for policies or laws that advantage trans people whilst simultaneously disadvantaging women and girls (anyone who campaigns for GRA reform for example)

Also TRA would apply to anyone who shames women for their sex realist position or is involved in no-platforming women or trying to get women sacked when attempting to talk about their rights.

I wouldn't class a person who disagrees with me but does none of the above as a TRA.

I think that it is acceptable for people who are trans to activate for protections that have no negative impact on female people’s rights and female people.

I think of it as extreme trans activists who push for rights that prioritise gender over sex and cause negative impacts to female people in any way. It helps me sort it out in my head.

TRA has a similar meaning to MRA

It's not so much that they are "Rights Activists" so much as Male Supremacy Advocates.

I don't have a problem with anyone advocating for trans rights, trans people deserve not to be treated badly, but there currently seems to be nothing between the trans people who just want to get on quietly with their life and try their hardest not to infringe on other people's rights but in doing so keep their head down and don't say anything about what is being said in their name, and the current hoarde of megaphone screaming banshees.

I'd quite like some moderate TRAs with sensible solutions to the obvious clash of rights that the current loudest TRAs are stating never happen.

I'd also like some TRAs to actually back up some of what they say with verifiable respectable sources and decent data.

A beetle can dream I suppose.

I'm of the belief that TRA is the equivalent of MRA, as it is very rare for the "rights" of trans identified women to be trumpeted and demanded. The "rights" we hear so much about are those of trans identified men, pushing their aggressive selves into women only spaces.

Thank you. It seems that people use it to mean different things!

An MRA v2.0, usually.

Talking specifically about the full fat, full on TRA's (the himdia and Fred types). In a kinder, more magnanimous age they would be invited (with no opt out exception) to spend all their time in a room with very thick wallpaper and 27/ 7 supervision. These people are complete tin foil hat nutters who believe total fucking nonsense and should not be left in charge of machinery or rape crisis centres .

I also have always taken it to be a play on MRA. So the difference between someone who is an activist trying to improve access to support services for men at risk of suicide and an MRA is seething misogyny. Likewise, the difference between an activist who is raising awareness of workplace or housing discrimination suffered by trans people and a TRA is seething misogyny.

Well, seeing as someone who identifies as trans has exactly the same rights as someone who doesn’t, based on their sex, then anyone who wants more rights is a TRA, regardless as to how they ask for this.
Someone who believes TWAW, would want all TW to be treated exactly like women, same spaces, same job opportunities, same hospital wards etc. they might not attend demonstrations and hold placards. But they actively want TW to be treated as women.
A GP who posts pictures of themselves wearing a rainbow lanyard to ‘make their patients feel safe’ is a TRA. A politician who stands up in the House of Commons and states TWAW is a TRA. A parent with a male child who claims to have been born in the wrong body, and said parent posts on social media about their ‘daughter’ is a TRA.

No, quite the contrary. There is a common theme in all of these responses. Can you spot it?

An MRA with 'weird' hair &/or a black bandanna or gimp mask or balaclava.

Someone who wants the special caste of trans people to have additional rights over and above the rights that everyone has. Eg the right to control other people's thoughts, opinions, beliefs and speech. The right to have reality bend to their will. The right to access resources and opportunities that are designated for a group of people they aren't a member of.

Someone who advocates for Gender Identity to be prioritised over Biological Sex socially, legally and/or linguistically.

Not everyone who has undergone gender reassignment is a TRA, not every TRA has undergone, nor intends to undergo reassignment.

This.

My best friend says trans women are women and thinks it's very unkind to say that they are male.

But she isn't a trans activist.

A trans activist is someone who openly believes that the "rights" of birth registered males to use women's spaces and compete in women's sports trump the rights of birth registered females to have single sex spaces and sports, and who actively opposes legal or medical gatekeeping in relation to gender recognition or "gender affirming healthcare".

I call them "trans activists" rather than "trans rights activists" because none of the things they are demanding for trans people are actually rights. They cannot name a single thing which is actually a right, and which trans people do not already have in the country where they live.