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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions
PoshCoffee · 16/05/2024 12:17

Oh dear, how sad, never mind.

Perhaps their next CEO can treat women with a little more respect

Ereshkigalangcleg · 16/05/2024 12:23

Oh of course it's all women's fault, as usual.

fruitbrewhaha · 16/05/2024 12:24

Why do the job for 6 months and then leave saying “I was criticised 6 months ago”? A bit odd.

Wouldn’t it be good if the donations went up even more as a result of Richards leaving?

Ereshkigalangcleg · 16/05/2024 12:25

Why do the job for 6 months and then leave saying “I was criticised 6 months ago”? A bit odd.

My thoughts exactly. It's almost as if getting that reaction meant that what was wanted was achieved.

VinnieVanDog · 16/05/2024 12:36

"Richards told Civil Society last December, a month after beginning the role, that donations to the charity had doubled in the week the appointment was criticised in the press"

And then fell massively for the next 5 months? I hope everyone involved in the travesty of Richards' appointment as CEO will be stepped down as well.

Needmoresleep · 16/05/2024 13:00

Tiny income. Perhaps they can't pay their CEO what they want to be paid. Just that and nothing more.

VinnieVanDog · 16/05/2024 13:13

Needmoresleep · 16/05/2024 13:00

Tiny income. Perhaps they can't pay their CEO what they want to be paid. Just that and nothing more.

I assumed it wasn't a paid role?

SerendipityJane · 16/05/2024 13:14

VinnieVanDog · 16/05/2024 13:13

I assumed it wasn't a paid role?

Or maybe it was paid at the womens rate ?

AstonUniversityPotholeDepartment · 16/05/2024 13:15

As no-one had ever heard of the charity before, the rush of publicity could only send donations up. The charity's accounts were discussed on MN, and honestly, it's damning if donations only 'doubled' in the week following Richards' appointment.

Allthegoodnamesarechosen · 16/05/2024 13:20

Perhaps got a better job at La Leche?

2Rebecca · 16/05/2024 13:21

It seemed as though the charity was one woman's pet project and had some odd views of what endometriosis was from what I can remember. I remember "men get it too" being said when a TW was appointed.

Chersfrozenface · 16/05/2024 13:24

VinnieVanDog · 16/05/2024 13:13

I assumed it wasn't a paid role?

CEO is normally a paid role.

The charity's accounts for the period in question are not yet available on the Charity Commission's website so it's not yet possible to tell from that source what salary, if any, has been paid.

AstonUniversityPotholeDepartment · 16/05/2024 13:34

I assumed it was an unpaid position at the time after I saw the accounts. Richards is an independent business-owner, employing a few people, so my first thought was that 'personal reasons' is code for 'the hours required for the position as CEO are interfering with running my own business'.

Chersfrozenface · 16/05/2024 13:36

2Rebecca · 16/05/2024 13:21

It seemed as though the charity was one woman's pet project and had some odd views of what endometriosis was from what I can remember. I remember "men get it too" being said when a TW was appointed.

From one of its fundraising appeals.

"Endometriosis affects 1 in 10 individuals that were born with female reproductive organs (and cis men in very rare case) globally which equates to approximately 176 million individuals..."

The NHS is refreshingly non-woo about the condition.
"Endometriosis is a condition where tissue similar to the lining of the womb grows in other places, such as the ovaries and fallopian tubes.
Endometriosis can affect women of any age, including teenagers."
https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/endometriosis/

As to the "very rare" cases in biological males, the sites I've looked at say between 16 and 20 have ever been recorded.

duc748 · 16/05/2024 13:44

IANAD, but this whole, men get it, rarely, business: men don't have ovaries. Or Fallopian tubes. Isn't it more, men, can suffer from a vaguely similar issue, but it's not endo? It's just an attempt to muddy the waters once again, isn't it?

MrsKwazi · 16/05/2024 13:47

The interview Emma Barnett had with this charity on Woman's Hour was radio gold

YetAnotherSpartacus · 16/05/2024 13:49

Can anyone point to a male-focused organisation that a transman has become CEO of?

WomenStuff · 16/05/2024 13:54

"Endometriosis affects 1 in 10 individuals that were born with female reproductive organs (and cis men in very rare case) globally which equates to approximately 176 million individuals..."

Way to exclude all the "individuals" with male reproductive organs not ID as cis men who "in very rare cases" get endometriosis! I'm surprised the CEO wasn't finding this statement deeply transphobic!

Thispinks · 16/05/2024 13:59

PoshCoffee · 16/05/2024 12:17

Oh dear, how sad, never mind.

Perhaps their next CEO can treat women with a little more respect

❤️

Remember the endometriosis charity that appointed a TW CEO?
Chersfrozenface · 16/05/2024 14:14

duc748 · 16/05/2024 13:44

IANAD, but this whole, men get it, rarely, business: men don't have ovaries. Or Fallopian tubes. Isn't it more, men, can suffer from a vaguely similar issue, but it's not endo? It's just an attempt to muddy the waters once again, isn't it?

This page gives a layperson like me some info on the matter.
https://endometriosisnews.com/endometriosis-in-men/

It gives a possible explanation for endometriosis in men but doesn't explain how tissue similar to endometrium can occur in a male body. Someone needs to analyse any tissue removed to see what it originally was prior to being, presumably, altered by contact with oestrogen.

AstonUniversityPotholeDepartment · 16/05/2024 14:17

Bloody hell, what a ironclad example of how women are dehumanised to bodyparts by trans activists, but men aren't!

Surely it should have been: Endometriosis affects 1 in 10 individuals that were born with female reproductive organs (and individuals born with male reproductive organs in very rare cases) globally which equates to approximately 176 million individuals...

ItsSerious · 16/05/2024 14:18

WomenStuff · 16/05/2024 13:54

"Endometriosis affects 1 in 10 individuals that were born with female reproductive organs (and cis men in very rare case) globally which equates to approximately 176 million individuals..."

Way to exclude all the "individuals" with male reproductive organs not ID as cis men who "in very rare cases" get endometriosis! I'm surprised the CEO wasn't finding this statement deeply transphobic!

Exactly; they're excluding transwomen! 😅

Chersfrozenface · 16/05/2024 14:25

ItsSerious · 16/05/2024 14:18

Exactly; they're excluding transwomen! 😅

Who may well be more at risk than other "individuals with male reproductive organs".

As the site I linked to above says, "The majority of male endometriosis cases are thought to be a consequence of prolonged hormone therapy."

WhereYouLeftIt · 16/05/2024 15:29

Richards has stepped down as CEO, but hasn't stepped away completely -

"The charity is now in the process of determining Richards’ new role and has not confirmed who is acting as CEO in her stead. "

If this charity is indeed one woman's pet project, she is determined to have Richards stick around. Personally, I suspect Richards has got everything they wanted from the appointment (validation, publicity, 'victimhood'), and sees no reason to actually put any work in.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 16/05/2024 15:32

I agree @WhereYouLeftIt