Gender GP Article in the Times on Their Use of AI

[Igneococcus]

Frontpage, article by Lucy Bannerman:
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/cf668d5a-2451-4ac1-9524-ddf935606e0e?shareToken=776324d213ddfc9f28b47f384fd3601a

I came here to post a link to this, thank you OP. The Webberleys are monsters and I hope justice catches up with them one day.

I am speechless ... was there any more clear evidence that there is no care here, it’s just a massive money making exercise preying on vulnerable people, most of them children or young adults.

”To join GenderGP, customers must pay an upfront fee of £195 and £65 for an obligatory information gathering session, followed by a monthly subscription fee of £30. They can book optional sessions to discuss issues such as fertility preservation and surgery for between £45 and £150 a time. The drugs are charged separately: a three-month supply of puberty blockers costs £265. Testosterone gel costs £135.
As part of its "future-proofed" service, GenderGP no longer appears to have real staff responding to queries. Instead, it tells paying subscribers to "self-serve your information needs" and refers them to a web link for an Al-generated "knowledge base".
The most basic interaction costs £7.99 for a 15-minute "live chat".
This system, it promised, will be "more sofisticated [sic]".

Investing piece - 1) humans don’t ‘transition’ because they can’t and 2) ‘many of their friends’ (wanting testosterone) - how ‘many’, 1, 2, 3, 20?

I despair at all this. When is society going to intervene and get these deluded young people out of the clutches of these charlatans pushing this toxic belief in sex change at them?

They really are scum exploiting people.

Also speechless. This is consumer cosmetic medicine with no acknowledgement of risk or dangers. You have to pay to get fertility counselling as an extra ffs!! I hope HW is on a fast track to being struck off. The only upside is that even their customers seem to realise that they are getting a raw deal and, if the reddit TransgenderUK is representative, are deserting them.

I was reading about this earlier on Reddit. One user came to warn others not to use Gender GP.

"To any folks out there looking at their options to start transitioning: Please only use GGP if you have absolutely no other choice. They will cause you nothing but stress.

If any of the decision makers at GGP are reading this: You should be ashamed of yourselves.

I'm sorry if this post has been a rambly mess but I am kind of freaking out at the moment. Additionally, if something like this has been posted before I am sorry I don't keep up with this sub much recently. Although imo I don't think this can be posted often enough, people need to know what an absolute dogshit "service" GGP are providing."

Thanks for the share as usual, Iggy.

There's another article:

What's that? Gender GP are a bunch of shysters!!

Gosh! Shocked face!

If only people would have listened to those apparently shrieking bigoted gender critical women who kept calling them out on their shit!

I'm bloody annoyed that there are innocent confused young people caught up in this shit show

Truly horrified to read this. This is completely unchartered territory and it makes it so much worse that it has such profound impacts on people's health-related quality of life.

They were appalled to discover that the online clinic they trusted as the experts in transgender medicine is now using artificial intelligence to influence their course of treatment.
The website, which is registered in Singapore, is transferring its “care” of a vulnerable group of people, many of whom have complex mental health issues, from advisers to algorithms. Not only that, but it has admitted in a statement to its subscribers, many of whom pay hundreds if not thousands of pounds to access off-label prescriptions for masculinising and feminising hormones, that it had switched to this new “next generation” system without telling them.

Just read they've gone on the run away from bailiffs. Come to try and find about it on here as I don't have an account

Well I can’t see how this could go wrong 🤔

Whatever happened to that thing they employed Susie green to sort?

Yes I accept that is as clear as mud!

There was supposed to be some sort of fund gender GP were setting up to help those who didn't have the money to afford stuff? Was that just a money grab as well?

Crikey. The reasons to be hugely concerned about this company just keep on coming.

So many vulnerable people have been taken advantage of.

I cannot get over the fact they have outsourced highly sensitive and requiring extensive expertise sessions to a bot.

This should be considered negligence of care.

Did Susie Green leave ahead of the sugar daddy donation story?

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5031331-gender-gp-clinic-accepts-donation-from-a-sugar-daddy

Just checked and it seems SG's time with them was very brief.

Joined Feb 2023: https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4739464-susie-green-has-joined-gender-gp

Left April 2023 https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5049657-susie-green-is-launching-a-new-trans-helpline

I believe the sugar daddy donation was the only money that SG raised for GGP

Occasionally I am caught short when I come face to face with pure fucking evil. It has only happened a few times in my life, but the fucking ghouls profiting off vulnerable gender confused kids whilst pretending they believe they are doing the right thing, I very much hope have a very special place in hell. They are so utterly vile and contemptible.

The Webberleys and the Irish "yeet the teets" butcher surgeon are so fucking malevolent. I don't think any horror film has dreamt up anything worse than them. Cutting healthy, just developing breast tissue out of distressed kids, giving vulnerable kids unproven irreversible treatments all for profit. They make me so fucking angry.

I am so grateful that the Cass report has made operating so much harder for these quacks.

Please excuse typo, should say SG left GenderGP in April 2024.

I just read the link. It's heart-breaking; how many poor Theos are out there, being exploited by these scum-bags?

She left in July 2023 so was only there 5 months

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4849095-susie-green-has-left-gender-gp

Is that picture one of those "before and after 6 months on hormones, how am I doing?" pictures?
Which one is the before?

I can't see Ig's second link, most strange