Transgender prison population rises by 17%

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https://www.gov.uk/government/statistics/hmpps-offender-equalities-annual-report-2022-to-2023/hmpps-offender-equalities-annual-report-2022-23

'As in previous years, the prison population has remained as majority male, white, in their 30s, heterosexual and following the Christian faith. There was a 17% increase in the transgender prison population this year, with 268 transgender prisoners recorded in March 2023. Similar to last year’s figures, most transgender prisoners were legally male, white and held in the men’s prison estate.
There was a drop in mother and baby unit applications this year compared to last year. However, keeping to the trend of previous years, more than half of applications were approved. This report shows new data on the protected characteristics of pregnant prisoners (found in Chapter 3).'

I'm pleased about the drop in the mother and baby units. Getting anyone born male into a women's prison can only be right if it's down to 0.
A relative worked as a prison officer in a male prison probably a decade ago, and told us that big, butch men would often appear for breakfast wearing lipstick as they knew it would give them special treatment.
When I worked in a public sector organisation I was potentially going to be seconded to a women's prison. I was told that statistically females were more likely to convicted of a crime than males (even though we representa fraction of the prison population), but female identifying males were less likely to be convicted because of their apparent mental health issues surrounding gender identity. Its man on pay day, woman on awards night.

I was told that statistically females were more likely to convicted of a crime than males

Probably worth mentioning that rape is only committed by males, but the conviction rate (and of course I get there are reasons for this) is remarkably low. There's probably no crime that women are charged with with has such a low conviction rate. I wonder how much that skews the figures.

Unless of course you are gaslighted into having to say you were raped by a women, which has been reported to have happened when the rapist had his little gender identity crisis!

This is likely to be an under estimate:

'For the purposes of this report, transgender prisoners are defined as those individuals known within prison to be currently living in, or presenting in, a gender different to their legal gender [footnote 5] and who have had a local case board (as defined by ‘The Care and Management of Individuals who are Transgender’ policy framework [footnote 6]) and are known to the diversity and inclusion lead within the individual prison where they are housed.

Prisoners who have a full Gender Recognition Certificate (GRC) are excluded from any analysis within this report.

The figures reported in this bulletin give an estimate of the number of transgender prisoners and are likely to underestimate the true number. This is because some transgender prisoners, both with and without GRCs, may not have declared that they are transgender or had a local case board.;

This is confusing;

Of the 268 transgender prisoners: 48 were in female prisons, 5 self-identified as transgender female, 41 self-identified as transgender male. The remaining 2 self-identified as non-binary, in a different way, or did not provide a response. 220 were in male prisons, 198 self-identified as transgender female, 0 self-identified as transgender male. The remaining 22 self-identified as non-binary, in a different way, or did not provide a response.

So that's 5 males in women's prisons in E&W, by my reading?

Which is of course not counting any males with a GRC, who will not show up in figures.

It does seem unnecessarily confusing!

Probably 5, but could be 7 (the 2 non binary, other, or no response).

[Edit: hang on, if there are 225 actual men, 220 trans prisoners in the male estate, and 0 actual women in the male estate - then yes, 5 men in women's prisons.]

5 plus any males with a grc. That is known about. Article says 13 with a grc, but not which sex they are.

'There were 13 prisoners known to have a Gender Recognition Certificate as of 31st March 2023. These prisoners are not included in the transgender prisoner totals presented in this report.

'There are only 12 women's prisons (out of 117 in total) in England and Wales'

A while ago (in the past 5 years) there was a trans group purposefully targetting men in prison - sorry I can't remember more, but it might jog someone's memory?

If the vast majority of transgender prisoners are sexed male, and the vast majority of offending is sexed male, do the usual ploppers think this is:

A) Because transwomen are offending in stereotypically male patterns and transmen aren't offending in male patterns OR

B) There are lots of male offenders pretending to be transgender OR

C) A combination?

I’ve never worked in a women’s prison but I know that women are less likely to be convicted than a man is.

This is why I would never work in a women’s prison because most of them are extremely volatile/dangerous/mentally ill.

I can confirm that in men’s prison there has been a massive increase in people identifying as transgender.

There are of course a lot of MH issues and neurodivergence, which does account for some of them just following the crowd but most of them are narcissistic and love the attention and/or are very sick individuals that get a kick out of being ‘a woman’.

There is tension in prisons because the transgender men tend to get more special treatment (single cells, extra care packages, extra underwear etc).

There have always been men who play the female role in prisons and become inmates ‘girlfriends’ this is nothing new and it’s common for them to act and dress feminine but it has become worse because now it is a protected characteristic and they can claim the officers are giving them unfair treatment because they’re transgender, so they get away with a lot more and get more special treatment compared to the other men.

One man wrote to the governor to complain that he can only wear women’s lacy lingerie because that’s the only thing he feels comfortable in!!!

I don’t know what the solution is though.

I would like to say whatever sex you are born then that’s the jail you go to but I don’t know if it’s that straight forward.

If a woman has had penis construction surgery then she can have sex/rape or make other women feel uncomfortable in a woman’s prison.

If a man has had vaginal construction surgery then he can have sex/be raped in a male prison.

But then even if a man has had his penis removed, I still don’t think it’s right to be in a women’s prison because I still don’t think that’s safe.

If a woman has had penis construction surgery then she can have sex/rape

Can they? Do these artificial penises work 'properly'? Do they achieve an erection?

I'm not sure I even want to know the answers to these questions! 😀

Why are men still in women's prisons?

Yes they can get an erection but not in the normal way (I don’t think).

I have no idea how they do it but I know they can have sex and pee out of it like a normal penis.

I was under the impression they had to be pumped up by hand but my knowledge is some years old. I can't imagine there is much pleasure involved...

Well I've just done the reading but it's all very confusing. Apparently you can have your cliterus lengthened to form a neo penis which will allow erections to occur, but you ALSO can have a further procedure to implant a device if you need to 'maintain an erection' so I'm not sure what's going on. Everything I can find seems very....optimistic. lots of stats about increasing in orgasm success etc but I'm struggling to believe lots of it.

The implants btw are not fda approved naturally.

How interesting/weird!

Inside Britain's first ever prison wing dedicated to transgender inmates - where criminals enjoy a £10,000 games wall, TV screens and leave their cells whenever they like | Daily Mail Online

FFS how ridiculous

'The Board queries the rationale (in the face of general financial constraints across the prison) for the provision of an ''energy wall'', costing £10,000, for this wing for just three prisoners (and which couldn't then be installed on the wall for some time as required),' the IMB stated in its 2024 annual report.

'The energy wall is not popular with these residents and has not often been used. We question whether it could have been located elsewhere in the prison (where a wider number of prisoners would have had access to it, such as perhaps the gym) or the funds for it could have been used for alternative provision for the particular wing.'

'41 self-identified as transgender male'
so biological females, right? [my brain may not be navigating all these identities correctly, it's only 10ish in the morning.
I wonder do they have a preference for male prisons, in order to affirm their male-ness, and if so, what is their experience there?

Women with a legal gender of female are all held in the female estate - regaedless of where they would like to be put. In this report, thr women's estate holds 41 women identifying as men and 2 women identifying as non-binary. The remaining 5 trans prisoners in the women's estate are men with a legal gender of male - it's not clear if they identify as women or as nonbinary, but presumably it's likely to be the former.

There are no women identifying as men, or women identifying as non binary in the male estate- except possibly ones with a GRC, who are excluded from.the report so we don't know where they are or how many.

There was one female identifying as a man in the men's prison estate in Scotland, but that was some years back.

Reading about this, and about the pointless judgements given a) to the man who attacked an elderly woman at the LWS event in NZ and b) to the man who attacked KJK at that event, I just wonder why justice systems around the world are still so shite at protecting women and punishing men who commit VAWG.