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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Pride at Work- did I put my foot in it?

33 replies

PennyMordauntsLadyBrain · 08/05/2024 17:29

I work in a fairly junior HR role in a very male dominated industry- think a local chain of mechanics.

Our HR team is small- less than 5 people. Boss is gay, but it’s the least interesting bit about her. It was our quarterly meeting and the Pride plans were on the agenda- L&D Lead whips out a presentation she’d been given by a third party and we started going through it, with the ultimate plan being that we, HR, would be delivering the training to groups across the business.

It all started well, with sound bites about LGBT people not being able to talk about their personal lives in the same way as straight people, etc etc, fair enough.

Then it moved on to actions for staff- being an “ally”, pronouns in emails, always making sure to ask people their pronouns. Not sure how this is going to go down with a lot of oil-stained mechanics in their 50s, but anyway.

Then it came to the branding- basically we’re told that there’s a big expectation from the parents company that everyone in HR uses the gaudy pride email footer, Teams backgrounds etc.

I realised I needed to say something. I said that I appreciated this was a cause close to a lot of people’s hearts, but I don’t feel comfortable making any political statements at work. I’m a feminist, but I declined to use the Women’s day branding when that was circulated. I have other strong political opinions but I don’t bring them into work, and this is no different. I won’t be using any of these materials or language in my own communications.

L&D Lead nods and looks oddly relieved? Boss says “Well Pride isn’t political.” - I said “I think we can all agree it’s been politicised over the last number of years.” They agreed and said that they don’t want to piss anyone off, and yes, it’s meaningless if people are forced to do these things.

I’m glad I spoke up, but I’m shitting myself I’ve put a target on my forehead for being intolerant.

OP posts:
StickItInTheFamilyAlbum · 09/05/2024 11:14

Her list of issues that need to be addressed is getting longer by the day, she says, from lack of adequate legal training to workshops that never get scrutinised by a third party.
"DEI started with good intentions but it’s clear that not enough guardrails were put in place, making it vulnerable to politicisation,” says de Grunwald, arguing that there needs to be more nuance in the conversation.

Yes.

https://archive.is/ieyRk

SinnerBoy · 09/05/2024 12:30

Toseland · Yesterday 19:18

I think they were all secretly pleased that you said it - well done OP!

Yes, I think that's very likely!

Dineasair · 09/05/2024 13:12

HoneyButterPopcorn · 08/05/2024 21:24

I was asked to ‘prideify’ the company branding and website.

I asked them to submit a written business plan for the project, complete with a cost benefit analysis.

They never did write that proposal…

👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

Valeriekat · 10/05/2024 01:11

Tigresswoods · 08/05/2024 20:00

First off, everyone is entitled to their individual opinion on this stuff but... for what it's worth my friend who is an out gay woman married to another woman told me she hates this stuff.
"At work I just want to be Sarah, not gay Sarah."

As I say, everyone is an individual but I find it interesting that she's so not bothered & there's all this focus on this stuff.

My nephew says the same thing.

Guavafish1 · 10/05/2024 01:25

I don't know what your exactly objecting too?

QueenBitch666 · 10/05/2024 01:36

👏👏👏👏

Sloejelly · 10/05/2024 07:08

Of course Pride is political!

RethinkingLife · 10/05/2024 07:45

Abeona · 08/05/2024 20:06

You did fantastically well, OP, and if in meetings all over the UK someone in every meeting spoke up as you did, things would be very different. It only takes one person to give everyone permission to back off. Well done and thank you.

It's a real world example of what happens when someone speaks up and exposes others' preference falsification (to their relief).

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