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The Times: "Support for Stonewall crumbles after Cass review"

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RandySavage · 20/04/2024 01:35

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/support-for-stonewall-crumbles-after-review-rzgpzt9xt

In a sign that the charity’s influence is waning, The Times understands NHS England has distanced itself from the organisation, cancelling conference tickets and a planned membership of the charity’s Diversity Champions Scheme.
An NHS spokesperson said: “After consideration, NHS England took the decision to not renew its membership with Stonewall last year.”

About fucking time

Support for Stonewall crumbles after Cass review

The LGBT rights charity has come under intense scrutiny for its stance on trans rights, with the NHS and other public bodies reviewing their association

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/support-for-stonewall-crumbles-after-review-rzgpzt9xt

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RandySavage · 20/04/2024 01:35

https://archive.ph/cISn2#selection-2793.153-2797.132

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songaboutjam · 20/04/2024 01:42

I don't want to get my hopes up, but this feels like a seismic shift.

Aren't even trans people beginning to turn on Stonewall or am I thinking of another major pro-trans organisation?

lonelywater · 20/04/2024 01:46

songaboutjam · 20/04/2024 01:42

I don't want to get my hopes up, but this feels like a seismic shift.

Aren't even trans people beginning to turn on Stonewall or am I thinking of another major pro-trans organisation?

its delicious. the full on loons regard stonewall as a sell out for not dismissing Cass out of hand, whereas more so called "ordinary" people are waking up to the fact that Stonewall is looking about as sensible as PIE.

redalex261 · 20/04/2024 01:53

When Stonewall achieved same sex marriage equality in 2015 they ought to have directed their efforts to campaigning for LGB rights in other countries around the world where people suffer real discrimination, danger and harm. But they couldn’t relinquish the “lovey” cosmopolitan London-centric lifestyle so went off at a tangent. They should wind up - they have had no integrity for years and now have been stripped naked of credibility. A disgrace.

Theeyeballsinthesky · 20/04/2024 08:22

Delighted to see NHS England - finally - distancing themselves. However, rooting out the damage already done by stonewall to the NHS will take years

LizzieSiddal · 20/04/2024 08:37

Good news, however it worries me that their influence is so entrenched that their “guidance” will stay in place.

MrsOvertonsWindow · 20/04/2024 08:54

I see Sport England have dumped them as well. Didn't the individual who targeted Rachel Meade's work for Sport England in a DEI role?

Snowypeaks · 20/04/2024 09:05

redalex261 · 20/04/2024 01:53

When Stonewall achieved same sex marriage equality in 2015 they ought to have directed their efforts to campaigning for LGB rights in other countries around the world where people suffer real discrimination, danger and harm. But they couldn’t relinquish the “lovey” cosmopolitan London-centric lifestyle so went off at a tangent. They should wind up - they have had no integrity for years and now have been stripped naked of credibility. A disgrace.

This, 💯.
Catastrophic error of judgement due to laziness and greed. Homosexual and bisexual people are persecuted and oppressed in many parts of the world.
Fight for them. Until they are free, neither are you.

WallaceinAnderland · 20/04/2024 09:30

But they couldn’t relinquish the “lovey” cosmopolitan London-centric lifestyle so went off at a tangent.

Not only did they go off on a tangent, they turned on the LGB community and started supporting attacks on the principle of same sex attraction 😮

RiversRunning · 28/04/2024 11:10

Stonewall was much-loved and highly respected until Ruth Hunt became Chair in 2015 and, in short time, bolted on the 'T' and was soon awarded a large govt grant to begin LGBT work in schools. It's all coming undone now. SW rapidly losing its Diversity Champions and financial support.

Allison Bailey's legal case against SW (13 & 14 May 2024) may well sound SW's death nell.

While SW goes down the pan, Baroness Hunt - elevated to the House of Lords for her transgender work with SW - lounges safely on the red benches.
Please consider signing Simon Edge's petition to get her removed from HoL https://www.change.org/p/strip-ruth-hunt-of-her-peerage-for-her-role-in-the-gender-medical-scandal

This petition will also strengthen Allison Bailey's hand, so doubly important.

Sign the Petition

Strip Ruth Hunt of her peerage for her role in the gender medical scandal

https://www.change.org/p/strip-ruth-hunt-of-her-peerage-for-her-role-in-the-gender-medical-scandal

HoneyButterPopcorn · 28/04/2024 11:13

How did the NHS get so star struck by this lobby group - who had NO medical evidence - to change policies, drug kids and give double mastectomies to girls (did they do ‘affirming surgery’ on boys too?)

does this mean that private hospitals will reverse their policies too?

HoneyButterPopcorn · 28/04/2024 11:33

So this means they will take the pride ++++ livery off trains?

IDoNotConsentToAstonResearch · 28/04/2024 11:35

redalex261 · 20/04/2024 01:53

When Stonewall achieved same sex marriage equality in 2015 they ought to have directed their efforts to campaigning for LGB rights in other countries around the world where people suffer real discrimination, danger and harm. But they couldn’t relinquish the “lovey” cosmopolitan London-centric lifestyle so went off at a tangent. They should wind up - they have had no integrity for years and now have been stripped naked of credibility. A disgrace.

Yes.
Also homophobia and lesbophobia exist here in all kinds of little ways that have a real impact even if there are no big headline issues left like gay marriage.
Also the treatment of gay refugees who come here.
Also a lot of the mistreatment some trans people get is a kind of homophobia and could have been addressed under a framework that still prioritised gay rights.

SaltPorridge · 28/04/2024 11:55

RiversRunning · 28/04/2024 11:32

This article by me sketches out the history of infiltration https://thecritic.co.uk/By-Stealth/#

Good Q re private hospitals.

Thanks for this very useful summary.
Could you possibly provide a key to all names etc For example who or what is AEA?
Tx

ProtocolDroid · 28/04/2024 12:03

My public sector employer is considering not renewing its membership based, apparently, on ‘value for money’…

Tallisker · 28/04/2024 12:21

The civil service is saturated with trans ideology. The staff network SEEN (Sex Equality & Equity Network) fights every day for policies to be correct according to the law. And it is a fight. The excuses to why they use 'gender' rather than 'sex' saying it's based on what the HR system's fields are and they can't reprogramme it are disingenuous and so frustrating.

SaltPorridge · 28/04/2024 15:08

RiversRunning · 28/04/2024 11:59

https://aealliance.co.uk/

Website needs updating.

Ah. Not the Atomic Energy Authority 😃

MrsOvertonsWindow · 28/04/2024 15:20

Stonewall back in the day produced some good anti bullying work for schools on homophobia. Unfortunately that gave them credibility, so when gender identity became the next cause, they were uncritically feted and funded. The DfE senior civil servant (Jonathan Slater), apparently with a personal interest in children transitioning, got special awards from Stonewall for his efforts installing mixed sex toilets at the DfE. Subsequently civil servants generously funded Stonewall, Mermaids and other trans activists groups, even promoting them to schools via government guidance.
Extricating their influence from schools will be so difficult as it depends on the government & civil servants reversing their previous uncritical funding and recommendations.

Runor · 28/04/2024 16:04

Removing SW’s influence from universities will be a challenge too, the aforementioned Jonathan Slater is now a Professor at The Policy Institute, Kings College, London

https://publicpolicydesign.blog.gov.uk/author/jonathan-slater/

Professor Jonathan Slater – Public Policy Design

News and views from the UK government's policy design community

https://publicpolicydesign.blog.gov.uk/author/jonathan-slater/

SaltPorridge · 28/04/2024 16:20

https://www.justlikeus.org/home/get-involved/school-diversity-week/

Arent these people just waiting in the wings to take over where SW left off? They say "thousands" of schools have signed up to take part.
Note the way they use pictures of ethnically diverse groups of schoolchildren and call their event "School Diversity Week" but it is about LGBT, not any other dimension of diversity.

School Diversity Week - Just Like Us

Celebrate School Diversity Week and get free LGBT+ inclusive lesson plans, assembly ideas and more for primary and secondary schools.

https://www.justlikeus.org/home/get-involved/school-diversity-week/

EasternStandard · 28/04/2024 16:23

Bloody great

lonelywater · 28/04/2024 16:25

think we are fast approaching the point where joining Stonewall looks about as sensible as joining Baader-Meinhof (one for the teenagers there)

RiversRunning · 28/04/2024 17:54

😅😂

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