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The Times: "Support for Stonewall crumbles after Cass review"

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RandySavage · 20/04/2024 01:35

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/support-for-stonewall-crumbles-after-review-rzgpzt9xt

In a sign that the charity’s influence is waning, The Times understands NHS England has distanced itself from the organisation, cancelling conference tickets and a planned membership of the charity’s Diversity Champions Scheme.
An NHS spokesperson said: “After consideration, NHS England took the decision to not renew its membership with Stonewall last year.”

About fucking time

Support for Stonewall crumbles after Cass review

The LGBT rights charity has come under intense scrutiny for its stance on trans rights, with the NHS and other public bodies reviewing their association

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/support-for-stonewall-crumbles-after-review-rzgpzt9xt

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RiversRunning · 28/04/2024 17:56

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FreebieWallopFridge · 28/04/2024 18:45

RiversRunning · 28/04/2024 11:10

Stonewall was much-loved and highly respected until Ruth Hunt became Chair in 2015 and, in short time, bolted on the 'T' and was soon awarded a large govt grant to begin LGBT work in schools. It's all coming undone now. SW rapidly losing its Diversity Champions and financial support.

Allison Bailey's legal case against SW (13 & 14 May 2024) may well sound SW's death nell.

While SW goes down the pan, Baroness Hunt - elevated to the House of Lords for her transgender work with SW - lounges safely on the red benches.
Please consider signing Simon Edge's petition to get her removed from HoL https://www.change.org/p/strip-ruth-hunt-of-her-peerage-for-her-role-in-the-gender-medical-scandal

This petition will also strengthen Allison Bailey's hand, so doubly important.

Signed.

FrancescaContini · 28/04/2024 18:50

SaltPorridge · 28/04/2024 16:20

https://www.justlikeus.org/home/get-involved/school-diversity-week/

Arent these people just waiting in the wings to take over where SW left off? They say "thousands" of schools have signed up to take part.
Note the way they use pictures of ethnically diverse groups of schoolchildren and call their event "School Diversity Week" but it is about LGBT, not any other dimension of diversity.

Oh good God I hope not. Bunch of charlatans.

RiversRunning · 28/04/2024 18:53

Will take time but it will happen.

RiversRunning · 28/04/2024 18:58

They can try. Over the last years our numbers have grown, we are getting stronger all the time and we are seasoned, we know the tricks. Cass Report was a game changer for the wider world and vindicated our views.

RiversRunning · 28/04/2024 19:01

Cass Report changes everything.

Squishwallow · 28/04/2024 20:38

My strong captured workplace has a meeting this week about potential dropping of stonewall which I never ever thought I'd see. The only problem is they don't see any alternative.

GiveHerEffervescence · 28/04/2024 20:46

The chartered society of Physiotherapy are doubling down on rainbow think.

Tootingbec · 28/04/2024 20:46

Someone was complaining on LinkedIn today that their consultancy work on trans “stuff” in schools and speaking engagements in corporates had basically dried up in the past 4 months.

Sooooo tempted to comment that I am glad their grift is up 😼

TempestTost · 28/04/2024 21:01

Squishwallow · 28/04/2024 20:38

My strong captured workplace has a meeting this week about potential dropping of stonewall which I never ever thought I'd see. The only problem is they don't see any alternative.

What does this mean? Why do they need an alternative?

Scintella · 28/04/2024 21:07

I’m not a conspiracy theorist but when someone says it’s a Russian/ Chinese plot to spread conflicting info in an attempt to destabilise our society -it was all so crazy I sometimes think you know what, they could be right.

GailBlancheViola · 28/04/2024 21:11

Squishwallow · 28/04/2024 20:38

My strong captured workplace has a meeting this week about potential dropping of stonewall which I never ever thought I'd see. The only problem is they don't see any alternative.

Why do they need an alternative? This is what I fail to understand the EqA is not difficult to understand, it is not akin to splitting the atom to treat employees well and fairly, it basic decency and common sense.

dapsnotplimsolls · 28/04/2024 21:15

Exactly - they could just read the Equality Act.

zanahoria · 28/04/2024 23:32

redalex261 · 20/04/2024 01:53

When Stonewall achieved same sex marriage equality in 2015 they ought to have directed their efforts to campaigning for LGB rights in other countries around the world where people suffer real discrimination, danger and harm. But they couldn’t relinquish the “lovey” cosmopolitan London-centric lifestyle so went off at a tangent. They should wind up - they have had no integrity for years and now have been stripped naked of credibility. A disgrace.

Stonewall did not lead that campaign and were pretty late backing it

Stonewall, Britain's largest gay-rights campaigning group, is in the grip of a deepening row – involving such prominent activists as Sir Ian McKellen – over accusations that the group is failing to back a campaign for same-sex marriages.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/stonewall-is-split-by-row-about-samesex-marriages-2095468.html

Stonewall is split by row about same-sex marriages

Stonewall, Britain's largest gay-rights campaigning group, is in the grip of a deepening row – involving such prominent activists as Sir Ian McKellen – over accusations that the group is failing to back a campaign for same-sex marriages.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/stonewall-is-split-by-row-about-samesex-marriages-2095468.html

zanahoria · 28/04/2024 23:35

Although many members of the LGBT human rights group OutRage! shared the feminist critique of marriage, the activist group had been lobbying for marriage equality since 1992, on the grounds that the ban was a form of homophobic discrimination. In 2010, it joined forces with other organisations to form the Equal Love campaign, which sought to end the twin legal bans on same-sex civil marriages and opposite-sex civil partnerships.
Stonewall repeatedly briefed against OutRage! and Equal Love; making bogus claims about the cost of equal marriage. Has anyone ever heard another LGBT organisation reduce equality to a financial calculation? Equal rights is a human rights principle – not something that can be embraced or rejected, depending on the cost.
Stonewall’s unwillingness to support the equal marriage campaign was quoted by homophobes to justify their opposition to same-sex marriage. The anti-gays gloated: “Even Stonewall doesn’t support gays getting married.

https://www.petertatchellfoundation.org/up-against-the-stonewall-on-equal-marriage/

Up against the Stonewall on equal marriage

Latecomer to campaign, Ben Summerskill smears Lib Dems

https://www.petertatchellfoundation.org/up-against-the-stonewall-on-equal-marriage

MrsOvertonsWindow · 29/04/2024 00:01

Tootingbec · 28/04/2024 20:46

Someone was complaining on LinkedIn today that their consultancy work on trans “stuff” in schools and speaking engagements in corporates had basically dried up in the past 4 months.

Sooooo tempted to comment that I am glad their grift is up 😼

That's very positive. Nobody should be selling trans stuff to schools - that's at the root of many of the problems children and young people face.

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