I would probably lose my job, Kirsty Allsopp

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I have never posted publicly in my real name about my GC views because I am scared of potential repercussions.

In both my current and previous jobs, I would be very vulnerable to accusations of transphobia. Getting rid of me would be considered the easiest way out. Not only that but I would probably not be able to work in this field again so it would probably end my career and working life.

So now you know, Kirstie Allsopp. Anyone else?

If you've got India 'Thank God for Nigel Farage! I’ll say it. The fact the French are escorting them over is awful. We’ve got Brexit and we’re leaving the EU. We should take control. I think it’s £100million we’ve spent on this problem. I’d go down the Trump route. Why not have a nice spikey barbed wire fence somewhere on the channel? Instead of using the English channel, they should use the legal channel' Willoughby cosying up to you that probably is a sign that you are very much going to be 'on the wrong side of history'.

Or if you are happy to endorse this racism

That’s not quite right. Kirsty seemed not to be aware that there had been any resistance to debate, or difficulty in raising awareness of the issues. JKR provided a list and evidence of women who had lost their jobs or been directly affected by trying to raise the issues. KA then claimed to be being piled on.

there’s more to it than that but that is the gist

I really think KA has no idea who or what she is dealing with here. She's not equipped for this debate because she hasn't bothered to look at the facts, the players or follow the money.

Or perhaps she really just doesn't care.

Also, aristocrats have conveniently passed legislation which allows trans women to inherit male titles under primogeniture rules. Whilst a transmen inherit under the rules relating to women. So that adds another layer of insulation for Kirsty. Not much in her world is under threat.

This is how I read it - it’s about a) the fact that KA denies there has been ‘no debate’ on the basis that she can say whatever she wants about it and hasn’t been silenced; b) the fact that KA neither understands the issues nor is prepared to listen to the explanations of people on the so-called ‘GC’ side so that she might at least understand there are ‘two sides’; c) has no understanding of the difference between the transexuals of yester-year and the current cult of ‘I am because I say I am’ trans person; and d) was scathing in her dismissal of many women’s perspective without even engaging.

Much of this because she is utterly rolling in her monied and class-based privilege and anglo/christian obliviousness. She could give two sh*ts about the negative impact ‘being kind’ may have on other women, even those with personal stories about their gender confused children, possibly because she will never bump into Isla Bryson when shopping in Harrods or dining in the Oxo Tower. And she certainly has no concern for women of other cultures/faiths, those traumatised by abuse or DV or simply too poor to have a personal shopper at Selfridges and a private shopping suite complete with champers.

JKR simply tried to engage her in meaningful dialogue.

Woah! That's vile from India.

Woah! That's vile from India.

There's loads more, including homophobia and misogyny from IW. Kirstie really needs to be careful who she is siding with.

I mean, Kirstie even blocked Netmums on X over this.

Netmums! The soft, gentle, nicey, nicey version of Mumsnet. The perfect platform for Kirstie. Blocked!

Kirstie is coming across as thick as mince

But she identifies as one of the great thinkers of our age.

I think the KA thing is quite weird. She said some pretty "transphobic" things a year ago. She said there is a conversation to be had in relation to men in women's sporting categories and that she thinks there are concerns around children being sterilised. But for some reason the trans activists didn't go for her. It was very odd. If she'd said those things 3 years earlier she would 100% have been cancelled. I almost think it is a sign that the Overton Window has shifted so significantly that now KA, with her arse full of splinters, is the best ally they can hope for.

This is what I thought too - there has been a definite shift. Kirstie is an imperfect ally but they’ll take her now that times are hard.

It does remind me a bit of one of the male clinician's from Hannah Barnes' Time to Think book. I forget his name but he was quite defensive of GIDS and didn't seem to see a problem but he was also one of the ones doing longer assessments and not making as many referrals for PB. It was like because he didn't personally feel pressured to change his practice, he kind of dismissed that other colleagues did, and was a bit unaware of unconcerned that newer clinicians were being trained to refer on more quickly and the culture and expectations of the service was changing. (Or he was just covering his own backside).

Just because she personally doesn't feel too intimidated to speak her mind, doesn't mean that nobody does or that it is their fault.

If someone (like me or Kirstie Allsopp) is stupid enough to be on Twitter, they shouldn’t complain if they get piled on. Twitter is designed to turn two way conversations into pile ons.

Mumsnet threads sometimes head a bit in that direction, but the platform is much better designed for respectful, nuanced discussion.

It wasn't a 'pile on' as such, but it was a lot of people asking questions for clarity. Questions that KA either couldn't or didn't want to answer so there were a lot of evasive statements from her.

The usual. Some really stupid like 'there are more toilets than transpeople' and 'I've never been assaulted so all women should not fear assault in a female only space' and lots more along those lines. And some quite 'transphobic' which TRAs are turning a blind eye to. For now.

Don't get too comfortable on that fence Kirstie, they'll still come for you.

I was surprised JK Rowling wasted so much time on it as it was obvious, fairly early on, that Kirsty wasn’t going to be moved by any persuasion or explanation. Still entirely up to her do decide which conversations to have on Twitter. It’s horribly easy to get sucked in on there.