I would probably lose my job, Kirsty Allsopp

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I have never posted publicly in my real name about my GC views because I am scared of potential repercussions.

In both my current and previous jobs, I would be very vulnerable to accusations of transphobia. Getting rid of me would be considered the easiest way out. Not only that but I would probably not be able to work in this field again so it would probably end my career and working life.

So now you know, Kirstie Allsopp. Anyone else?

She's not very intelligent, frankly.

Her comments about millennials and property ownership made it perfectly clear that she's the kind of person who has been elevated to a position far beyond her natural competence thanks to money and connections.

Kirstie A has waded into the debate with the same level of subtlety that she demonstrated when she physically smashed up her child’s IPad when he was becoming addicted to it. Unfortunately, while she got applauded by some for her ‘no-nonsense’ decisive parenting on that occasion - the same impulsive, not-really-well-thought-through approach to the trans gender issue doesn’t wash. Kirstie talks to everyone in the high-handed manner she talks to Phil on Location Location. She obviously hasn’t given a huge amount of thought to this issue and it obviously hasn’t touched her life in any meaningful way. She can get away with saying outrageous stuff I’m sure on set and the worse she’ll get is a bit of eye-rolling.

It would have been easy for JKR to accept the olive branch proffered. Kirstie is probably thinking JKR is a fellow wealthy woman of my ‘ilk’ - let’s go eat some cake in a posh cake shop and get over it - TOTALLY not realising the maelstrom JKR has stirred up and the seriousness of the Cass Review Self-ID etc… She’s blustered into the situation and thinks everything can be sorted by proverbially ‘knocking through a few walls’. Not so on this occasion Kirstie.

I think she’s a mother to strapping sons with names of Gods (Atlas? Horatio? Thor? Can’t remember exactly) - I’m sure if they’d approached her requesting that they change their name to Lolita and borrow her Boden dresses she’d have given them short shrift.

She’s now feeling affronted and perhaps slightly humiliated and is going on the offensive. She’s now full-on TWAW and has the joy of India Willoughby circling her for her allyship. Perhaps she can go to the Dorchester and eat cake with India instead - just remember to shave your legs Kirstie!

And JKR please don’t engage with her any further because you’re in danger of wasting energy and people might misconstrue it as just a ‘spat’. Your eloquence is pure gold on this issue - please save your battles - same goes for any engagement with India - it just makes them feel important and elevated and we don’t need that at all.

I wonder , genuinely, why my post was removed. It linked a tweet that is currently available for all to see about Kirstie Allsopp's awful response to concerns regarding a young woman having a double mastectomy because she identifies as a trans man.

How is that against Talk Guidelines?

KA is happy to have all her tweets in the public domain. She says so herself.

https://twitter.com/KirstieMAllsopp/status/1779965494478385212

Here she is saying that we should debate with more humour.

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Ok, this didn't go as expected!

I have no particular opinions on Kirstie - I hope she has a nice life. But my lived experience is that she is wrong about the ability to constructively discuss the subject and I just wondered how many people felt the same as me.

https://twitter.com/kirstiemallsopp/status/1199397423208157186

Owen Jones and Kirstie Allsopp united? Have changed mind. Twitter does reconcile differences!!

I think that most people don’t consider her relevant to be fair. That is why I don’t think people reacted.

So, therefore she has no real understanding and is not inclined to go and get that understanding, but now wishes to be relevant. Perhaps so she can say she expressed ‘doubts’ because she now sees where this is all headed.

x.com/kirstiemallsopp/status/1780721108167147852?s=46

Oh my God she's lost the plot. Championing Dylan Mulvaney!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Kirstie's pinned tweet is about Jonathan Haidt's latest book. Haidt is on record as saying that the large numbers of girls seeking to transition is due to social contagion. That, IIRK, is more or less JKR's position, which KA no doubt finds 'unkind'. Kirstie does not do joined up thinking. Or maybe men are allowed opinions that women aren't

What an absolute melt.

And then her follow on comment about right wing groups.

I wonder how many times the Honourable Kirstie, daughter of 6th Baron Hindlip, "millennials can't buy houses because they fritter all their cash away on luxuries" Allsopp has actually voted for a left wing party.

Who are "the real feminists" then?

Stand back ladies!

A man is here to tell us what’s wrong with our feminism.

Alongside the PP who insinuated that all women should agree with each other, otherwise we’re not one big happy sisterhood like that films tell us we should be.

I'm not a man. I'm a woman who don't think that it's healthy or acceptable to talk about murdering women because of what she puts on twitter. Violence against women is endemic. How is it funny or clever or even vaguely okay to say something like that poster did?

I'm paraphrasing JKR here, but it takes a lot more courage to stand up to your friends than it does to stand up to your enemies. If you're standing with someone who's talking about wanting to drown a woman, you really should speak up, whether you agree with that person on other issues or not.

I agree. It'd not ok to joke about drowning a women just because you disagree with her.

Maybe it’s just a turn of phrase, but I very much do not want Kirstie Allsopp to drown.

She is misinformed and doubling down, but in terms of intention it’s no worse than her comments on washing machines in kitchens or how easy it is to buy property.

Yes it’s great when someone plops onto a thread and makes violent threats against women that NO ONE would condone on this board or hopefully elsewhere on MN. Conveniently gives a bit of credibility to the ‘toxic on both sides’ schtick. Tedious.

I assume she watched the video where he cried and said he was actually jealous of “real” women.

"I think she’s a mother to strapping sons with names of Gods (Atlas? Horatio? Thor? Can’t remember exactly) - I’m sure if they’d approached her requesting that they change their name to Lolita and borrow her Boden dresses she’d have given them short shrift."

This.

I've yet to see threats directed at anyone as a result of their views on this forum.

Do you know something I don't?

Fuck she's daft.

Perhaps she hasn't yet read it?

The woman in question was also a top lawyer, so they picked the wrong person

And a Tory