Radio 4 right now (4:05pm weds after news) Cass Review - Did journalists get it wrong?

[OpusGiemuJavlo]

Just heard this pre-news trailer for what they will be talking about in a few minutes - should be interesting.

"In the light of the Cass review, we are asking Did journalism get it wrong?"

[SallyLockheart]

tuning in ..................

[nauticant]

Listening now!

Hannah Barnes and the discussion is about the media's handling of the story.

[heathspeedwell]

I've got to pop out but can't wait to hear all about this!

[nauticant]

It's an angle on the story that I've not heard elsewhere. For example, there's agreement that science journalists avoided the story.

[LogicLoverLlama]

"The Media Show" available on BBC Sounds , I just hit "Live" and rewound a few minutes.

[nauticant]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m001y86y

[nauticant]

Katie Razzall seems to be spinning this as being too difficult a story to report on and that being complicated by it actually being a Culture Wars thing.

Yet another journalist is now saying that that's not actually what it was.

[nauticant]

KR: Maybe it was too inflamatory to put on the main part of the BBC and was better to keep it in niche places light Newsnight?

[nauticant]

KR: Shouldn't we listen to the voices of people in pain?

[That is, better not to report on the story in case in upsets trans people.]

[AutumnCrow]

@nauticant

KR: Maybe it was too inflamatory to put on the main part of the BBC and was better to keep it in niche places light Newsnight?

Edited

Wow. I wonder, what's Sarah Smith's excuse then for the disgraceful way she treated Graham Linehan on Newsnight?

[ladymalfoy45]

@nauticant couldn't put it better myself.

[nauticant]

On the positive side, it got the first third of the programme and that's in the face of the story the show really wanted to cover, Hugh Grant settling with The Sun.

[AutumnCrow]

Journalists didn't just 'not cover' the gender woo scandal. They fucking amplified the social contagion, particularly the BBC and the Guardian - with some noble exceptions.

[ladymalfoy45]

I'm yet to be convinced the KR is a decent journalist. I get the impression she simply regurgitates information a researcher has given her.

[nauticant]

Katie Razzall sounds much happier talking with another journalist (sic) about news outlets having dedicated Taylor Swift correspondents.

[PaleBlueMoonlight]

The suggestion that a news story might not be reported on in mainstream news because it is too controversial is quite shocking.Though I imagine that there would be no such qualms if the controversy favoured the trans activist position.

[BillytheMountain]

Agree Nauticant, it’s something that this was Media Show top story. Also I too think Katie is a piss poor journo.

It’s great we’ve got here where evidence based medicine is the story. It’s been a long and illuminating ride to make it here, with many journalists, editors, news outlets shown to not be worth their salt.

[nauticant]

In a deeply ironic moment, Razzall was interviewing a bloke who made a Netflix show called Sex Education, she touched on trans, that being a topic in one of the episodes he made, and he said that as a straight white cis man he didn't want to talk about the topic.

[heathspeedwell]

I'm really hoping that after the Cass Review Netflix will top shoehorning a trans story into every single thing they produce.

[nauticant]

How is that different to what they've been doing to date? 😉

Edited to add: Ahh, you meant "will stop". Got you.

[AutumnCrow]

'What did you do during the safeguarding wars?' will be a question for the ages.

I rang up my Labour MP (by appointment) specifically so that he could never, ever say the issue of safeguarding children was never raised with him. I contacted journalists, fellow academics, politicians, and charities. I met with our county's Police and Crime Commissioner and Deputy Police and Crime Commissioner.

It was exhausting. But never actually lonely - because of a platform called Mumsnet FWR (as was!) and all of you lot. I felt - feel - like part of a team. And I know that are journalists moving among us ... and I hope that MN FWR posters get the credit that they are due from them at least.

[IcakethereforeIam]

Are they trying to circle back to no debate? But instead of 'some people are trans, get over it' they're going all Mavis 'well I don't really know'. They seemed to know well enough when they were cheering children down the trans path. Suddenly realising their utter ignorance in the wake of the Cass report...I... words have failed me! Don't want to cough to the damage they've done.

[nauticant]

It does look like the new line is "don't frighten the horses".

[borntobequiet]

I thought Katie Razzall’s area of expertise was being unnecessarily gushing at (e.g.) the Oscars.
But I am a bit mean.

[borborygmi]

Katie Razall's got form.

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5025242-5025242-the-bbc-at-its-victim-blaming-best?reply=133650871