Radio 4 right now (4:05pm weds after news) Cass Review - Did journalists get it wrong?

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Just heard this pre-news trailer for what they will be talking about in a few minutes - should be interesting.

"In the light of the Cass review, we are asking Did journalism get it wrong?"

Are you calling India a horse? I suppose if the besequined bridle fits...

Missed this and I see "this episode is not currently available" on BBC Sounds

Is reporting of climate change, religion and the Middle East too inflammatory?

Was Brexit not a culture war?

The reason we have reached this point is that people have been persuaded that any discussion of sex, gender and identity is too inflammatory.

I'm glad we have these threads as archives for all the 'unavailable' discussions.

It will be on BBC Sounds soon.

Katie Razzal is the daughter of the libdem peer, Lord Razzall.
Just sayin...

Well the BBC is obviously going to have to cover its areas isn’t it and KBs “difficult story to talk about” just about does that

Absolutely appalling and maddening from the BBC.

It is now! I'm listening in the app. Sometimes takes a while to be available

I've just listened and need to listen again without kids begging for snacks but it was glorious to hear Hannah say that the bbc hadn't been impartial and why the hell hadn't health journalists covered it.

And many journalists had been shit.

Glad Deb Cohen was mentioned as she did an awful lot in the early stages of this unfolding

I was going to listen to this until I saw here that it's Katie Razzall. No need now as it will be absolutely piss poor.

The pontificate on that guy.

assumes noble self-important voice 'I? A white cis male? AYE would never presume to comment on trans affairs. Silence women journalists. How very dare you cross the lines I now draw!'

KR (genuinely surprised) but you did write a plot line about it in your rubbish show tho right.

Honestly, the SMUGNESS.

It's a good listen @PurpleWhirple as the 3 journalists she has on are very forthright and sensible. They pause a little before answering, giving listeners a chance to roll our eyes at the soppy line of questioning, before hearing a nice clear answer. I just listened to that bit though, so can't comment on the 'white cis male' bit!

The 'white cis male' bit was a throw-away part in a not especially interesting segment at the end of the programme. You can stop listening after the first 20 minutes.

I completely agree, she seems to do News Lite.

The LibDems who accepted £1.4m from Ferrings, a pharmaceutical company that produces puberty blockers? Those LibDems?

I definitely eye rolled when at the end Razzall asked whether if no clear evidence they should just listen to people in pain.

No, if there were concern about any other area of patient care competent journalists wouldn’t just ignore the NHS trusts/doctors/whistleblowers/researchers and get anecdotes from patients.

(They had already covered the usefulness and limits of individual stories).

Him refusing to comment on trans issues because he was straight cis white male was enraging. What a pompous twat. He's using virtue signalling as a mask for cowardice.

Hannah was more open and critical than I've heard her before.

I felt she was gagged on trigonometry. I'd love to see her on there again or maybe as part of a group discussion. @triggerpod

Bet theres many things he'd express an opinion on despite his 'white cis-hetness': what a lazy,and stupid idea that we can't think or empathize,or then critically think ,without specific personal experience. A ridiculous cultural poison.

I wonder if he would use the same excuse if asked whether racism is bad?

I haven’t listened but I’m glad this is being said

I feel much more scrutiny is needed

Bumping to let people know that this programme is going to be repeated in 5 minutes from 8pm on Radio 4.