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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Fall out of CASS report

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Sparklybutold · 16/04/2024 08:15

In light of the CASS report, there is still a long way to go. At least that's how it feels. I was bullied, harassed, discriminated against. I told my university there was a serious problem. I was ignored, shamed, and gaslit. By so called professionals. My qualification has been impacted. My physical health took a dive and there were times I thought I was losing my mind. I want to so desperately name and shame openly. I want to directly let the one person who instigated this know the damage they caused. Anyone else feel the same?

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RedToothBrush · 17/04/2024 12:55

YetAnotherSpartacus · 17/04/2024 11:56

But we are taught little about the abuse and dangerous of Communism and the far left. Instead it can almost be glorified.

As a communist (Marxist) I don't actually see the far left as embracing communism so much as an odd form of identity politics influenced ultra-liberalism with an equally odd prejudice against free speech. They are influenced by neoliberalism if nothing else. Most couldn't tell you the name of three books that Marx wrote let alone hold forth on the contradictions of the capitalist mode of production or tell you what surplus-vale and profit are.

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I actually Norovirus 'communism' is a form of Ultra Libertarianism. But with elements of Stalinism.

nauticant · 17/04/2024 13:23

If you and your fellows are going to be free to do what the fuck you want, and the material goods are going to be provided by others, possibly without their consent, then elements of Stalinism would seem to be necessary to deliver that.

Jux · 17/04/2024 13:49

Once things have calmed down, I think it is really important that we look at whatever aspects of society which allowed this to take root in the younger population so strongly. For instance, I can absolutely understand why a girl may not want her body changing, may not want to grow up as a woman - still earning less overall, still more vulnerable and unsafe, still taken less seriously, still in danger of being raped and not taken seriously over that, etc etc. There are so many problems with being a woman in society that it really is daunting; these things are all spoken of much more widely than they were when I was growing up. I'm not saying they shouldn't be spoken of so openly, they absolutely should, but in 40 years since I was in my 20s, that's the most progress we seem to have made, that we speak of those injustices and inequalities more openly. We haven't stopped or changed them much. Sometimes I feel so hopeless about sex equality. The main problem I see is men, and men aren't particularly engaged except as TWs who certainly aren't interested in making life better for anyone except themselves.

RebelliousCow · 17/04/2024 14:37

Mary Harrington on form again. She has such an interesting way with words - creating pithy new phrases which describe what is really going on:

Gender Vivisection.

Here she talks about people back pedalling from former positions in the light of the Cass Review - focusing here on Kirsty Allsop. She talks about how moral consensus tends to precede rationalisation.

"So, now the winds have changed, we find Allsopp also back-pedalling. It was never true, she asserts, that there was “no debate” on the issue of medical experiments on gender-confused children. Puberty blockers, Kirstie informs us, were bad all along. But we could always talk about it: “it is, and always has been possible to debate these things and those saying there was no debate are wrong”. All the people (mostly women) unfairly fired or bullied out of jobs, all the grannies punched by men with special identities, the no-platforming, the intimidation, the threats, and the censorship — that wasn’t actually a thing.

Allsopp is the clearest indicator yet that at least where child gender vivisection is concerned, at least some of the grandes dames of Truth Universally Acknowledged may have paused broadcasting a TUA in order to convince themselves, in the light of a new emerging groupthink, that the new consensus is what they believed all along. And because moral consensus precedes its “expert” rationalisation, so we also find that those who purport to stand for science and reason are also curiously quiet"

https://unherd.com/2024/04/why-the-centrists-changed-their-trans-tune/

Why the centrists changed their trans tune

https://unherd.com/2024/04/why-the-centrists-changed-their-trans-tune/

RebelliousCow · 17/04/2024 14:44

In truth, though, “experts” are a front for the TUA (a Truth Universally Acknowledged): the chattering-class moral consensus. And this is manufactured by people who care less about being right than looking virtuous. Career moral entrepreneurs such as Hunt; vacuous grandes dames such as Allsopp; “communicators” such as Rutherford whose job is to make consensus look sciency. Downstream of their posturing, children were irreversibly harmed. They didn’t care; they wanted to look kinder than you. They should not be allowed to forget how wrong they got it.

SinnerBoy · 17/04/2024 16:10

RedToothBrush · Today 10:50

^In Hungary we visited The House of Terror in Budapest which is a museum dedicated to the Stasi https://terrorhaza.hu/en^

Sorry to nit pick... The Stasi were the East German secret police, the Hungarian version were the AVH.

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