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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions
EverySporkIsSacred · 05/04/2024 07:07

Yes, perhaps a more appropriate chant would have been "we're here, we're queer, and we're coming for your kids (and your pets)"?

Datun · 05/04/2024 07:23

Good Lord. Taken out of lessons, with no notification to them or their parents, trapped in a room, where the teacher left, and subjected to being taught about illegal practices abusing animals.

And the school response seems really luke warm. Inappropriate, not good in an historical context, shocking?

When the ABC sought comment from the presenter a response was sent on the person's behalf asking that reporters refrained from reaching out or naming them in its coverage.

Why should reporters take any notice of that! They should be named and shamed, and arrested.

Boiledbeetle · 05/04/2024 07:25

Fuck me that's grim.

These kids are being let down so very badly.

SamuelDJackson · 05/04/2024 07:26

Why only the girls? Its a coeducational school - did the boys get their bestiality lecture in another session?

MrsOvertonsWindow · 05/04/2024 07:42

This is the danger of schools outsourcing their Sex Relationships education to outside groups. We know this happens a lot in the UK although there is guidance for schools about their responsibilities for staff to be present and to check material in advance.
But given the recent revelations about the number of schools who still have policies about transitioning children in secret from their parents, too many schools have evidently outsourced their thinking to trans extremist groups rather than centring the law and safeguarding. As this thread shows:

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5043286-primary-school-teachers-hiding-social-transitioning-from-parents

Primary school teachers ‘hiding social transitioning’ from parents | Mumsnet

OK so how is the guidance going to be enforced? [[https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/308b8b1b-a0d1-48d9-9b96-1296699dffac?shareToken=b744639b47d5fd...

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5043286-primary-school-teachers-hiding-social-transitioning-from-parents

guinnessguzzler · 05/04/2024 07:52

Utterly horrendous. Disturbing and distressing for the kids, totally unfair to the LGB community, and damaging for society as a whole.

RainWithSunnySpells · 05/04/2024 08:40

This ties in with the thread about the removed twitter post.

To quote EsmaC on that thread (linked below):

'So one person posted an image of an animal being sexually abused and another person correctly sexed a person on Twitter, and it's the latter who is deemed harmful?'

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5042946-australian-esafety-commissioner-vs-elon-musk-forced-removal-of-post-on-x-that-was-harmful-to-a-tra

MrsOvertonsWindow · 05/04/2024 08:47

RainWithSunnySpells · 05/04/2024 08:40

This ties in with the thread about the removed twitter post.

To quote EsmaC on that thread (linked below):

'So one person posted an image of an animal being sexually abused and another person correctly sexed a person on Twitter, and it's the latter who is deemed harmful?'

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5042946-australian-esafety-commissioner-vs-elon-musk-forced-removal-of-post-on-x-that-was-harmful-to-a-tra

Yes - it's a relentless assault on boundaries. We see it on here from male posters who arrive pronouncing mangled versions of "the law" to insist that they must have the right to access women and girls undressing etc. Boundaries of children are particularly important to these people as once children and young people see boundaries and saying no as negotiable, then they're ripe to be abused. Is bestiality not against the law in Australia? It is in the UK and there have been a number of prosecutions reported recently.

MissLucyEyelesbarrow · 05/04/2024 08:51

Who would have thought that letting randoms talk to teenage girls about sex, when the school hadn't reviewed the content, and no teachers were present, might go wrong? 🤔

RainWithSunnySpells · 05/04/2024 08:57

Is this another reason why the fruit farm is so hated? I know that they (members of the fruit farm) have previously identified animal abusers (and writing that feels like a massive understatement given that the case of Adam Britton is an example of what I am thinking of). IIRC it was a specific dog lead that was the clue that broke that case.

Crankywiddershins · 05/04/2024 09:04

SamuelDJackson · 05/04/2024 07:26

Why only the girls? Its a coeducational school - did the boys get their bestiality lecture in another session?

And fuck knows what would be included in that lesson.

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CreditKarm · 05/04/2024 09:08

This is exactly why normal gay and bisexual people (like myself) are distancing ourselves from this movement.

It's rife with paedophilia and sickos like this 🤢

MissLucyEyelesbarrow · 05/04/2024 09:15

CreditKarm · 05/04/2024 09:08

This is exactly why normal gay and bisexual people (like myself) are distancing ourselves from this movement.

It's rife with paedophilia and sickos like this 🤢

It is awful for gay people. You spent centuries, trying to overcome prejudice about gay men, in particular, being paedophiles, and now the 'queer community' are determined to lump you in with the most disgusting abuse.

RainWithSunnySpells · 05/04/2024 09:19

I have no doubts - not even for a nanosecond - that most people in the alphabet list do not want beastiality to be in the + and that they are completely repulsed by animal abuse.

I think that Queer theory and the removal of boundaries is rearing its ugly head again. It's a shame that Queer theory is called 'Queer' as that word has had so many meanings now. It's easy to think of the wrong meaning and get the wrong end of the stick.

MissLucyEyelesbarrow · 05/04/2024 09:19

I agree with a PP about boundaries, but it's not just about personal boundaries, it's societal boundaries about what is acceptable. Since the 60s, there has been a determined effort by (for want of a better term) liberal elites to label anyone who wants boundaries around sexual behaviour as a prude. There are two options: you are either cool, modern and sex-positive, or Mary Whitehouse, with nothing in between. There is no recognition of the importance of sexual boundaries to preventing abuse, and in keeping sex pleasurable for women.

So now we have a world where 16 year old girls feel they have to accept choking and anal sex, and where millions of men feel entitled to watch children being raped online.

There have always been abusers, of course. And the pre-1960s world had some dark prejudices of its own. It's not that I would want to go back to the morality of the 1950s, but we have replaced it with something that, for many women and children, is worse.

CreditKarm · 05/04/2024 09:19

RainWithSunnySpells · 05/04/2024 09:19

I have no doubts - not even for a nanosecond - that most people in the alphabet list do not want beastiality to be in the + and that they are completely repulsed by animal abuse.

I think that Queer theory and the removal of boundaries is rearing its ugly head again. It's a shame that Queer theory is called 'Queer' as that word has had so many meanings now. It's easy to think of the wrong meaning and get the wrong end of the stick.

Most people don't want the T & QIA+ either.

LGB! Same sex attraction.

Non of the other shite is relevant to us.

SinnerBoy · 05/04/2024 09:23

So Billboard Chris's tweet was blocked by the Australian authorities, but this organisation is allowed to present bestiality? As mentioned by Billboard, in his tweet about the WHO worker.

It's a tremendous failure in safeguarding, I wonder if the presenter had a background check, before being unleashed, unsupervised, on these girls?

MadraUisce · 05/04/2024 09:27

MrsOvertonsWindow · 05/04/2024 08:47

Yes - it's a relentless assault on boundaries. We see it on here from male posters who arrive pronouncing mangled versions of "the law" to insist that they must have the right to access women and girls undressing etc. Boundaries of children are particularly important to these people as once children and young people see boundaries and saying no as negotiable, then they're ripe to be abused. Is bestiality not against the law in Australia? It is in the UK and there have been a number of prosecutions reported recently.

Yes a growing number of cases I have noticed too. I am speechless at this - to normalise animal torture and rape by these queer theory bastards is so far beyond any boundaries that we set for ourselves that I cannot even comprehend it. It is almost too distressing to bear.

PartOfTheFurniture12 · 05/04/2024 09:40

MrsOvertonsWindow · 05/04/2024 08:47

Yes - it's a relentless assault on boundaries. We see it on here from male posters who arrive pronouncing mangled versions of "the law" to insist that they must have the right to access women and girls undressing etc. Boundaries of children are particularly important to these people as once children and young people see boundaries and saying no as negotiable, then they're ripe to be abused. Is bestiality not against the law in Australia? It is in the UK and there have been a number of prosecutions reported recently.

In fairness, a lot of Australia’s wildlife can take care of itself. Why introduce laws when you can hand out Darwin Awards instead? 😂

Completely agree about boundaries. And they do it under the guise of inclusivity. Surely being unable to distinguish between LGB people and perverts is homophobic. I’m bi and I’d much rather schools didn’t talk about homosexuality AT ALL than lump it in with fetishes. It’s being used as a gateway drug: you don’t have a problem with gay people, right? So, you also shouldn’t have a problem with XYZ…

MissLucyEyelesbarrow · 05/04/2024 09:49

It’s being used as a gateway drug: you don’t have a problem with gay people, right? So, you also shouldn’t have a problem with XYZ…

Exactly right.

CreditKarm · 05/04/2024 09:52

Agree.

I'm bisexual and the way the whole Rainbow movement has been pushed had made me decide ANY talk of sexuality inside school shouldn't be allowed.

Passed a very basic explanation in PHSE that some people are gay and have same sex attraction. End of.

Onionbelt · 05/04/2024 10:03

delivered by a lived experience speaker that Headspace Berri facilitated at Renmark High School," he said.
Ffs

CocoapuffPuff · 05/04/2024 10:41

Just the girls, huh? One might wonder how the organisers knew who was a girl and who was a boy. It sure is a mystery. Wonder what the boys were shown....

Crankywiddershins · 05/04/2024 10:43

CocoapuffPuff · 05/04/2024 10:41

Just the girls, huh? One might wonder how the organisers knew who was a girl and who was a boy. It sure is a mystery. Wonder what the boys were shown....

I'm not at all sure that they asked everyone who identifies as a girl to join.

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NeighbourhoodWatchPotholeDivision · 06/04/2024 01:55

This isn't the first time that people claiming to advocate for LGBTQIA+ people (I say 'claiming to advocate' because any time you support bestiality, you are doing a grave disservice to the reputations of decent people who are L, G, B, or T-identifying) have said that the + includes bestiality.