"How to be fair to transgender athletes"

[ZeldaFighter]

I wonder if this man telling women to just budge up and be kind - there isn't really a problem- knows what he's saying. Disappointingly, he's a sports science academic.

www.playthegame.org/news/practical-suggestions-on-how-sports-federations-can-be-fair-to-transgender-athletes/

World Aquatics tried that.

Swimming World Cup’s new ‘open’ category for transgender athletes scrapped as it received no entries

World Aquatics became the first major Olympic governing body to ban transgender women from the elite female category but, as part of last year’s announcement, had promised to stage events in a third ‘open’ category that would be separate from the usual men’s and women’s races.

The first opportunity for transgender swimmers to compete in this category was due this weekend, when the World Cup in Berlin was ready to host 50 metres and 100m races in each stroke, but not a single entry was received.

It suggests either that there is a minimal number of transgender swimmers who are willing or capable of competing at an elite level or that there is little desire to compete in races outside of the usual categories.

Or trans athletes want the validation of competing in sex category that they think matches their ‘acquired gender’.

https://archive.ph/ZwRLt

@Cattenberg

You are the first I’ve ever seen mention deaf sports and Para sports in the GC context.

I have experience of deaf sports and for a long time have help an unspoken view that the way in which the solution to the Trans sports issue is solved already exists. Having Deaf sports works to include Deaf people whilst remaining fair to Para athletes.

To me this modal would solve the Trans sports issue yet rarely if ever gets mentioned. To me just copy the modal and have Trans sports . if the issue is i indeed about inclusion and the ability to compete then how could anyone object and if they do they need to also include an argument for Deaf people to be included in Para sports.

This would be unjustified, because unlike being deaf or hearing-impaired, claiming a special identity does not affect athletic performance, so no need for a special category. Identity is also a nonsensical basis for classification - why is it only masculine and feminine gender identities are considered? No-one ever thinks of the cats, faes or astros etc. Where is their category?

It also ignores the fact that these men want to be in the category labelled "women".

Creating additional special categories based on identities would be unfair to women because the cost of setting up and running such categories would be in practice taken out of the budget for women's events - the mindset in most sports is that the men's version is the sport, and the rest, including women's events, is diversity and box-ticking.

So that's hard no from me.

That's the point I went from reading it to just glancing at the rest of it.

I don't have the headspace for the amount of crap in that article today.

@BellaAmorosa

i am not advocating categories as there are no Deaf categories at the Para Olympics. it would have to be separate events . As for funding, Deaf sports manage to fund and I would imagine all manner of “Inclusive “ companies would be queuing up to sponsor Trans events before Deaf sports who are below para sports.

We are in agreement that I also believe this is about men wanting to be in a woman’s category. I believe this solution would if nothing help the mask slip further.

Thanks for your opinion I will reflect on it more.

“How to be fair to transgender athletes”?

Simple - stop being complicit in their delusions, and lying that humans can change sex.

It’s literal violence if a man doesn’t get a medal in a women’s sports event.

Well known fact. I am sure someone somewhere has done a peer reviewed study and had it published in a well regarded periodical.

Oh apologies, I mistakenly included the word period, I hope I didn’t offend anyone.

Apologies for not reading your post properly!

Edited because I realised I hadn't read your reply properly, either! 😄

There are all sorts of medical (and psychological) conditions and treatments which disadvantage an individual vs the rest of their sex.

Jenner gives the lie to the idea that transwomen can't compete fairly at the very highest level.