#FirstDoNoHarm conference 23 March (Clinical Advisory Network on Sex and Gender)

[RethinkingLife]

Thread for anyone attending or following the live stream.

A variation on waiting for the conference host to start…

I love how both horse and it’s rider are completely ignoring the toddler having a tantrum banging it’s cymbal.

Yes, I see where you were coming from.

I think quite a lot of medical people (people in general really) aren't actually all that analytical or creative. Their approach to medicine is just about following what they are told the best practice is, and they don't question that a lot. Maybe there is something of a failure in the training though I would say that it's possibly part of a larger failure in the sciences which don't always manage to communicate to undergraduates what is really going on in scientific thinking.

The horse was in Melbourne, Australia. Same TRA tactics though.
Police actually pepper-sprayed some of them (TRAs, not horses)
https://x.com/SimonRAnderson/status/1771509236679491957?s=20
Described as an "Anti-trans" rally of course.
Apparently the two women who were arrested were of the bepenised variety, quelle surprise

Dr Ronx in the DM article above "To see people who are 'professionals' tut, frown and take pictures of us as if we are the enemy whilst accessing the conference was not nice."

Presumably storming the building, screaming and throwing smoke bombs was considered a reasonable response to those who tut.

I'm irked that I quite liked him, I've seen programmes with him with my daughter. He should get the sack, but as he's at the BBC, I doubt it.

Dr Ronx is a They/Them who describes theyself as trans nonbinary

An adult human female

Was also on cbbc operation ouch for ages.

Sorry, now rtft!

It's one of those irregular verbs.

Well Dr Ronx may not be a BBC employee, but shouldn’t be platformed via the BBC. I think Tim Davie needs to know about this. I feel sad thinking about his empty email inbox, so it will be doing him a favour.

Declaring you are "non binary" just seems a way for straight blokes who dislike women and want to feel part of something and special to tag themselves on to the trans movement

Unfuckingbelievable.

Is this still a "false flag"? I guess if Ronx doesn't really work for the BBC?

Not sure Ronx still works for the BBC. They has an agent and can be hired for between 2 and 5k an event.

Ooh, is they an actor?

They is still registered with the GMC. So still a doctor.

Not an actor. For hire as a conference speaker.

Not clear if that includes attempting to break into the conference.

www.jla.co.uk/conference-speakers/ronx-ikharia

Dr Ronx should be on a panel at the next conference and explain their position (and present the scientific studies to back them up).

Hope you're not suggesting violent non-consensual co-platforming, you fascist.

Breaking into a conference with smoke bombs certainly is violent.

Is tutting transphobic?

Should I add it to the list?

Oh gosh yes. Tutting is like a series of micro aggressions, all strung together. It's a major cause of PTSD. These poor brave activists also require urgent treatment on the field for RSI from lobbing smoke bombs, and laryngeal issues from yelling at medics. Hopefully theys doctor has bravely attended to any injuries from shoulder barging the doors and serious breakdowns from the police failing to affirm theys rights to break and enter as they damn well please.

It's been said many times but bears repeating. The Daily Mail, the Telegraph and The Times report this stuff. The Tories have seized on it as one of the very few ways in which they can appeal to the electorate in a way that the other parties can't, and they're all hoping we will forget it was the Tories who got us very close to having self-ID of gender across the UK. (Penny Mordaunt, Maria Miller, Crispin Blunt, Caroline Nokes and various others are or have been all keen supporters of gender ideology, but Sunak and Truss fortunately aren't. Even a stopped clock ...)

Meanwhile on the left, The Guardian mostly pretends it's not happening, for fear of the yelling from their many TRA members of staff and columnists. Every single political party except the Tories is in a right mess over this, either outright pushing for self-ID and to hell with safeguarding and women's rights, or trying to do a White Queen and believe six impossible things before breakfast.

And the BBC, which should be impartial and objective on all issues, by virtue of it's charter, on this issue at least, isn't. Shameful.

'For Dr Ronx, their catalyst for no longer being in the dark about their gender identity was “the extreme unhappiness that [they] were existing within.” They stated that they stopped going to the gym because of the sexualisation of cis men, and eventually stopped going out completely. “The day I came through from surgery was probably the best day of my life.”'

From a panel at a Student Pride event.

The surgery referred to was a double mastectomy.

I wonder if trans would be so popular amongst teen girls if it wasn’t near impossible to get a breast reduction on the NHS? And if eating disorders would be rarer?

If it were affordable/accessible to take a D+ down to a B or so I imagine a lot of young adult woman would go for it (I realise this has implications for future breastfeeding, so I’m not necessarily advocating for it, just having a think out loud).

When I look at ‘Top Surgery’ results it’s clear that a good percentage of the girls and women opting for it had breasts large enough to be a daily inconvenience, and if they’ve appeared rather rapidly and you can remember a time before them, I can definitely see how the desire to be rid of them could be a massive motivating factor.

I don't get this - Dr Ronx (AFAB in their terminology possibly) stopped going to the gym because of the 'sexualisation of cis men', which I read as a protest against 'cis' men (how can Dr R tell?) being sexualised by others. As in 'cor, cis man, you look really sexy in those lycra shorts' - is that what Dr R means, because that makes no sense. Were they sexualising Dr R when they was still a she? Is that it?

If they simply has the odd BBC contract to front the occasional show or series, then all the BBC can do is not offer them such contracts in the future. They are not staff.

It would be good to see Dr Ronx on a CAN-SG platform but they couldn't possibly afford Dr R as things stand.