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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Should there be a public enquiry into how gender identity ideology took over public life?

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Leafstamp · 14/03/2024 09:08

I think there should.

If you agree, there's a petition called 'Hold a statutory public inquiry into Gender Identity Ideology and Queer Theory'

Also a thread in Petitions and Activism section

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IwantToRetire · 14/03/2024 13:14

Isn't this quite an old petition.

Unfortunately I think the petition would have done better if it hadn't tagged on Queer Theory.

ie there are all sorts of crack pot believes shared and discussed and yes even taught in Universities. And people wont want to be part of trying to silence discussion.

The issue is why and in whose interests was it / is it that Gender Identity has been adopted by public institutions including the Government and NHS. If they hadn't transgenderism (which isn't exclusive to Queer Theory) would not have become part of the mainstream.

If public decision makers are that gullible what does it say about their ability to take decisions on other issues.

IwantToRetire · 14/03/2024 13:21

Petition seems to have been started by this man https://twitter.com/DadRogd who is part of this support group https://ourduty.group/

Must have been started last December.

Welcome | Our Duty

Our Duty provides support for parents with a child who thinks they are transgender. We are active in UK, USA, Australia and Canada

https://ourduty.group

Feckedupbundle · 14/03/2024 13:26

Signed,but I doubt that this will happen in the near future. Too many people will have to admit and explain why they were so keen to destroy safeguarding principles and why they were so taken in by a small,noisy minority.

plipplops · 14/03/2024 13:36

Signed

Signalbox · 14/03/2024 15:24

LipstickLil · 14/03/2024 13:13

Thanks for the info about the petition - I've signed. There are 8,680 signatures at the moment, so just 1,320 more needed for it to be debated in parliament!

I think it needs 100k before it’d be debated in Parliament. 10k and you get a statement.

Leafstamp · 14/03/2024 16:06

Signalbox · 14/03/2024 15:24

I think it needs 100k before it’d be debated in Parliament. 10k and you get a statement.

Yes, I thought that was the case too. I can't see it getting to 100k and I share the reservations about an enquiry happening any time soon. I still think giving the whole issue some exposure and getting a response in writing (if it gets to 10k signatures) will be a worthwhile step.

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EasternStandard · 14/03/2024 16:07

Op it is. Changing the conversation is crucial but it won’t be fast

All these things help do it though

Ofcourseshecan · 14/03/2024 18:43

I've signed the petition. I agree that it's unlikely to get through yet, but we have to start applying pressure. There is serious and challenging research to be done.

I can't think of any comparable movement in the past that has made such vast gains so rapidly, with policies that had little public support and caused so much harm, on the basis of what most would recognise as a delusion.

One factor in its success was that genderism managed to piggyback on the gay rights movement. I think it's important to start disentangling those two very different movements.

In Britain, the gay rights organisation Stonewall took up the trans cause in 2015, after the legalisation of gay marriage left it with little to do. I still hear people smugly claiming to be 'on the right side of history' by comparing trans rights to gay rights and saying anyone who doesn’t agree is a bigot.

In reality, the gay liberation movement offers a striking contrast to genderism.

Homosexuality has existed throughout history, though often banned under patriarchy. It doesn’t harm anyone, it doesn’t disrupt society, it doesn’t impinge on anyone else’s rights or freedoms. In the progressive atmosphere of the 1960s it started being legalised, and by now it’s not even controversial to most of the population.

Genderism, on the other hand, is a fairly recent invention. Throughout history some women have disguised themselves as men, either in order to escape the oppression of a female life, or for safety in a male world, or to be able to have a lesbian relationship. Meanwhile, some men enjoyed cross-dressing as a sexual fetish. Despite the efforts of transactivists to claim these were transpeople, there’s no reason to believe any of them thought they had changed sex.

The harms caused by genderism are real and obvious. Children being gaslighted into thinking they were born in the wrong body. Whole social groups of teenaged girls calling themselves ’non-binary’ and having their breasts amputated. Adults of both sexes needing lifelong drugs and surgical interventions after having cosmetic surgery to try to appear like the opposite sex. And that’s just those involved in it.

Genderism is a massive assault on women’s rights. It gives men the right to intrude in all women’s single-sex spaces and services, to win women’s sports events and prizes, to take jobs intended to increase representation of women. It weakens child safeguarding and reduces women’s ability to take a full part in society.

How can anyone seriously compare genderism — which injures participants, demolishes women’s rights and endangers children — to homosexuality, which does none of those things?

EasternStandard · 14/03/2024 19:21

Fantastic post @Ofcourseshecan

duc748 · 14/03/2024 20:12

Appalonia · 14/03/2024 11:47

One thing that came out of Free Speech Nation on Sunday was the fact that WPATH persuaded the NHS to use their computer system, at HUGE cost, which records gender identity. This explains why men are being asked if they're pregnant and mother's asked about their baby's gender identity. How this happened needs investigating ( and removed ). So yes, I totally agree there needs to be a public inquiry.

And also probably explains why there's a never a "I think gender theory is load of bollix" option too.

Ofcourseshecan · 15/03/2024 00:25

Thanks, @EasternStandard . It's one of my bugbears, genderism getting a free ride on the hard-won progress made by lesbians, gay men and their allies.

AlwaysGinPlease · 15/03/2024 00:29

@Leafstamp yes there absolutely should. I'd love to know how such absolute fucking nonsense was not only taken seriously but then legally reinforced. Madness.

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