From the US: mother of TiF went undercover at gender clinic

[Sidaway]

This is quite shocking - a 53-year-old mother, estranged from her daughter for not affirming her trans identity, decided to go undercover with her local healthcare provider to see how "gender-affirming care" works.

She pretended to be "non-binary", and was approved for testosterone, double mastectomy and phalloplasty within a few months. No safeguarding at all.

I know this is from the US, but affects us all as the main driver of gender ID bollox. And I know most of us know this kind of thing goes on, but I hope this story reaches as many people as possible who aren't aware.

https://www.realityslaststand.com/p/i-pretended-to-be-nonbinary-to-expose

Brave woman. We need more people doing this to expose the dishonesty, negligence and unacknowledged medical experimentation that's going on in these places.

I'd like to see a good investigative reporter backed by his or her publishers taking it up over here.

This really is a superb piece of reporting. It's shocking how easily the author was ushered through the system. As she says, she was prepared for failure in her efforts to expose the lack of safeguards, but wasn't prepared for such a quick and easy success.

Despite gender activists and clinicians constantly claiming that obtaining hormones and surgeries is a long and complex process with plenty of safety checks in place, I was in full control at every checkpoint. I was able to self-diagnose, determine how strong a dose of testosterone I received and which surgeries I wanted to pursue, no matter how extreme and no matter how many glaring red flags I purposefully dropped. The medical workers I met repeatedly reminded me that they were not there to act as “gatekeepers.”

I was able to instantly change my medical records to reflect my new gender identity and pronouns. Despite never being diagnosed with gender dysphoria, I was able to obtain a prescription for testosterone and approval for a “gender-affirming” double mastectomy from my doctor. It took only three more months (90 days) to be approved for surgery to remove my uterus and have a fake penis constructed from the skin of my thigh or forearm. Therapy was never recommended.

Wow what a read! The way she dropped in hints (and more) about mental health issues and they blithely went on. What great work she has done!

She's an adult. So what's the problem?

I don't know what you've got against adults, PP82 - surely they deserve safe, responsible medical care same as non-adults?

Seriously? You read that article and that's your take away thought?

It's shocking how easily the adult who knew it was all a pile of crap, fed them enough red flags for them to realistically not deem her a suitable candidate for life changing, possibly life limiting, totally unnecessary surgeries was greenlighted for everything.

If this company can be so lax with an adult why should we assume they are any different with the children and young adults with actual mental health issues that are causing their ROGD that pass through the system?

No one should be able to get such life changing not medically necessary treatment so flipping quick with seemingly no thought at any stage from the clinicians involved that this might not actually be in the patients best interest.

Money, money, money, in a rich man's world. Depressing, barbaric, what else can you say. Except, of course, that the sunlight is a good thing.

So should an adult with anorexia be encouraged and supported in their choice not to eat? Should an adult with body dysmorphia be offered plastic surgery to 'put right' all the bits of themselves they think look bad?

PP82 - seriously?! If I go to a doctor because I believe I have a medical issue (gender dysphoria?) I want the doctor to consider my symptoms, diagnose the actual problem and offer appropriate treatment.

You don’t seem to think that. Is that because you don’t think gender dysphoria is a medical condition? Do you think it’s appropriate to offer care for gender dysphiria to a patient who is actually suffering from a mental health issue?

Or perhaps you believe that gender affirming surgery is actually just cosmetic surgery which should be offered to anyone who asks? Which is it?

If I went to the doctor convinced I needed a knee replacement, should I get one? Or should they check the underlying condition needed a knee replacement?

I see that to some posters that merely being older than 18 is all that is needed to abandon any formal diagnosis. So, in effect, this is a group that can get access to extreme body modification whenever they want. Good to know

The underlying principle of medicine is “First, do no harm”. This applies to adults and children alike.

Very interesting - thanks for sharing this.

If a 31 year old anorexic woman went to the doctor and said they believed they were fat would you expect a doctor to
a) Do medical checks and refer for therapy
or
b) prescribe ozempic

You forgot getting a gastric band? You would be medically negligent and violate her rights as an adult to not refer her for surgery for a gastric band if that’s what she wanted.

I don’t know if this link will work - it is a 34 year old woman who has known since she was 19 that she does not want biological children. She is a step-parent, but knows absolutely that she does not want to be pregnant/have a biological child.

No medical professional will assist her - she has begged for sterilisation for over 10 years.

Yet - how quickly could the woman doing this exposé (and others far younger) have their uterus removed because “trans”?

https://www.news.com.au/national/south-australia/rickielee/video/100cc28b07a90b7fbb95d125226263b3

• Edited as last sentence unclear in meaning.

Look at the kitchen floor!!

I think your 'husband' missed a bit.

He's doing the ironing at the moment so he'll have to sort it later.

Gender dysphoria is not a mental illness.

Gender dysphoria is not a mental illness

Yes it is. The clue is in the word dysphoria. It’s in the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Health Disorders 5th Edition Text Revision (DSM 5 TR).

The clue there is “mental health disorder”. HTH.

@PP82 Taking cross sex hormones and having surgery to cosmetically modify genitalia inevitably causes harmful side effects, which may include permanent sterility, loss of ability to orgasm, and reduced life expectancy.

If ‘gender dysphoria’ is not a mental illness, what are the doctors offering these treatments actually treating?

This makes me wonder about differences between the USA and here.

Over here, treatment linked to the reproductive system(sterilisation, HRT) are tightly controlled. Even when going outside of the NHS and paying for prescriptions, doctors are very cautious. This isn't an age if consent issue.

Does anyone know if in the States, these can be accessed on request, and without 'gatekeeping'?

I don't know @Brainworm but I have a feeling that here too surgery connected with transy wrongfeelz is far easier to get. Referrals to GIDS were certainly offered with bugger all questioning or investigation. Some of our young (and old) people will have been saved by the queues, but others have been maimed by a dysfunctional system at their most vulnerable moment.

Gender dysphoria is not a mental illness.

What is it then?
Why does it need significant medical intervention if not an illness?

Well that's it, isn't it, if you are an adult you can just choose to take whatever drugs you want and choose off whatever bits of your body and the doctors just tick the box and pass them through.

If that's the case, what is the point of doctors and training if it is just a tick box exercise? Just do a survey monkey and see what comes out.

The problem with gender ideology is that it literally destroys everything and everyone it touches.

“If ‘gender dysphoria’ is not a mental illness, what are the doctors offering these treatments actually treating?”

Could it be seen as a life style?

My fear is if the NHS has to choose between spending money on say reducing death at birth and providing whatever medical support this non-illness needs (hormones, surgery)… which will be prioritised?