The kids are alright

[MrSand]

I occasionally look at trans groups on Reddit, mostly to expose myself to differing views. Today I noticed two posts which, although depressing in their own way, had bits of good news.

In the first, a 14 year old boy complains about increasing trans hostility from his peers. I suspect this is his misinterpretation of increasing sex-realism.

Hello trans people in my phone, I came out about 2 months ago as trans to close family and friends, but am unsure about what steps to take as a trans girl (14yrs), from what I know the UK is terrible when it comes to trans healthcare for young people and the increasing hostility that people my age have against the trans community makes me feel terrified of social transition. Is there any advice or resources that you have that could help. Thanks.

And in the second a man who plays on a women's football team isn't receiving the validation he had hoped for, either in football-related social spaces or on dating apps:

Young TERFs on the Rise?
I don’t know if you have similar experiences but I’m noticing an increasing amount of TERF rhetoric from lgbt people in “inclusive” social spaces.

Of course I have sympathy to some extent for both of these individuals, but I'm heartened to hear that young people seem less inclined to go along with this nonsense.

And girls and women realising that they are being expected to accept sexist gender roles to validate a male person's sexist beliefs about how women live.

The absolute batshittery on some of the trans subreddits really is something. Hormone therapy makes them lose inches off their height and alters their bone structure, they are weeping messes when they have their period.
I have noticed though that they NEVER call out the trans predators Though.They don't do themselves any favours at all.

Reddit is actively and heavily moderated to remove gender critical opinion so it always surprises me when posts querying gender ideology are allowed to remain.

In the real world, things are quite different. Kids aren't swallowing it completely, and are just as critical as grownups.

In my DD's London secondary school, kids who identify as trans aren't hated, but they are pitied. It isn't cool to identify that way, and they become isolated because other kids don't want the drama of constant flare-ups over every perceived slight, and the lack of support they will receive from teachers and the SLT.

Trans-identifying kids aren't isolated because they believe themselves to have changed sex per se. But the other kids also don't believe it, they are forced to be kind.

I agree. The trans lobby love to push the narrative of terrible hostility to trans people and that there are cohorts of people ( us, apparently) who hate them and want gbdm to be killed.

It’s one of the most disgusting aspects of this movement that they actively want vulnerable children to believe this.

This I can’t agree with.

The problem is that TRAs love to push the lie that lots of people hate them and want them to die. A bit like you are rather insidiously trying to do here.

That is why that young person feels scare. They aren’t actually reporting any RL experiences, just that they have been told there is lots of hate and hostility. Adults are pushing this narrative for their own agenda and don’t give one crap about the kids they are terrifying with it.

That's one of the (many) things I hate about the ideology, the persistent reinforcement that they are the most vulnerable, oppressed, and vilified group in society. It's no wonder gender confused kids are scared of the world, they're constantly told they ought to be.

Three 15/16 year old lads have been stabbed to death in my city in the past couple of weeks, but no national candle-lit vigils for them. Working-class boys don't warrant that sort of attention apparently.

Unfortunately we no longer have accurate language to inform us. ‘Hostile’ could mean no one will admire his shaven legs and long hair, or it could mean being pushed around and having his head flushed. The language no longer differentiates.

Quite. The trans movement cried wolf.

Maybe this is a real wolf. Maybe it's a kid who's heard everyone shouting about wolves and is scared. Maybe he's standing in a field of sheep thinking they're wolves because his online friends say that's what wolves look like.

I'd rather chew my own arm off than read Reddit but some of us absolutely do call out predators within our own community.

You evidently have no idea what it is like to be a trans kid.

Quite surprising, considering the deluge of media portraying 'trans' kids' journeys, endless first-person stories by 'trans' kids and their parents, non-stop 'education' on the matter and outlets eager to uncritically amplify any & every opinion those people have.

If only there was as little information about what it's like to be a black kid, a poor kid, a disabled kid ... or even a girl.

Every single adult on earth has been through puberty.
We all know the angst is real.
Adults turning that angst into paranoia is a safe guarding failure for children who want to transition.

Which trans kids is that? Or are we suppose to lump them all together?

What's a 'trans kid'?

"Do you take that stance when it comes to women and girls facing hostility or attacks too?"

To be completely honest, if women and girls were saying these things and the "Hostility and attacks" turned out to be someone not agreeing with their opinion, yes, yes I would, and have also taken that stance.

Someone not agreeing with you is not hostility or an attack, it's a difference of opinion.
Difference of opinion can, does, and has been expressed in ways without hostility or personal attacks.

Anita Sarkeesian for example suggesting that she was being attacked for other's (a lot of which were women) simply not agreeing with her stances on female characters in video games is one that stands out most in my mind.

NoMoreFalafelsForYou · Yesterday 16:47

It wasn't the primary motive, but it was the secondary motive.

The point of it is that it was a secondary motive, not the prime one and many people have been pretending that it was the sole motive, in order to push the idea that transw are uniquely vulnerable and in danger.

In fact, as has been discussed here on numerous occasions, transw are absolutely by far the safest demographic, when it comes to violence. Children under two are far more likely to be murdered, both in absolute numbers and as a ratio of the population.

Surely that's something to be happy about? (Well, not people being murdered, obviously).