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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Parkrun to remove course records

188 replies

Ingenieur · 07/02/2024 18:39

In response to criticism of its "gender categorisation policies", Parkrun are now removing a suite of details and records from the site.

https://twitter.com/Cantspekl/status/1755170910787490028

One more thing taken away...

https://twitter.com/Cantspekl/status/1755170910787490028

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WomaninBoots · 11/02/2024 14:26

I do get bigging up volunteers, a bit, not "heroes" but like "cheers, that's really useful" especially when events might be struggling, but HQ has a very odd attitude to volunteering, both over-egging it and also saying things like "you should only volunteer for the joy of it, noone should feel obliged" 🤔 For me it's a basic I want the run to happen so I'll help make it happen sometimes. Thankfully my local Core Team are lovely, I can imagine some get very cliquey.

Different discussion really though. The parkrun Australia post and the comments under it are proper funny though.

CruCru · 13/02/2024 19:10

This is an interesting thread. I was really interested to read this post on LetsRun:

"I must admit the thing I hate most about park run, speaking as a former sub elite woman now running a slow 19.30 in my late forties to occasionally be first woman on a good day, is those male park runners who make it their aim to target you as the only person they are interested in defeating in the race. They follow on your heels, you can hear their laboured breathing, and try and sprint past you at the finish. They ignore all of the male runners. Then they come up to you in that little narrow finish chute (if they haven't barged you out of the way despite finishing behind you, that has actually happened to me) and tell you how they've been trying to beat you for the last 3 races. If you don't manage to escape quickly enough, they follow you around telling you about their extremely boring training and previous times.

There just aren't many 5k road races around here within 90 minutes drive, as a former middle distance runner I don't really like 10k but I do like to race every 2 or 3 weeks. But all of this has really put me off park run and I certainly don't want my participation to boost some former man's excitement about thinking he is a woman now and can race in our category and steal our placings.

Us women are always being told to boycott things to make our point anyway."

I had never thought about men making a point of beating the faster women. I have run ParkRun but am far too slow to have anyone attempt to beat my time.

Yesnosorryplease · 14/02/2024 08:38

I can't tell you how annoying I'm finding the tone of this on X - all the tras sneering at anyone who objects to parkrun's handling as "someone who probably never runs anyway" The patronising dismissal is unbearable.

maltravers · 14/02/2024 09:30

Are they all purporting to be runners, or are they there for the principle?

maltravers · 14/02/2024 11:58

Man tells women TW in their sport is not an issue. Well it doesn’t affect you dear, either as a woman or a TW. Maybe have a go at men and tell them they should be more welcoming/tolerant.

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 14/02/2024 12:05

Jonathan Liew apparently wrote this in a previous article. Should have been career-ending.

Parkrun to remove course records
maltravers · 14/02/2024 12:08

Empathy for biological women and their hopes and dreams is clearly not his strong point.

Shortpoet · 14/02/2024 13:49

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 14/02/2024 12:05

Jonathan Liew apparently wrote this in a previous article. Should have been career-ending.

Yeah, budge up all you support humans. It’s not like you even had hopes and dreams in the first place. Shut up and be happy that others are inspired.

StephanieSuperpowers · 14/02/2024 14:06

maltravers · 14/02/2024 12:08

Empathy for biological women and their hopes and dreams is clearly not his strong point.

I think you're making a bit of an error here. Real people have hopes and dreams. Women? Can we really say they're actual people with inner lives?

maltravers · 14/02/2024 14:21

you may like this from mole at the door

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byteme1011 · 14/02/2024 16:34

I listened to a really good podcast yesterday 'Sharron Davies reveals the hidden misogyny behind the Olympics' on 'Rachel Johnson's Difficult Women', i didn't even realise she missed out on gold because of the East German doping regime!

Rachel Johnson's Difficult Women on Apple Podcasts

‎Rachel Johnson's Difficult Women on Apple Podcasts

‎Society & Culture · 2024

https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/rachel-johnsons-difficult-women/id1562362641

Gingeratheart · 14/02/2024 17:06

I've downloaded the podcast. Sharron Davies is a brave soul.

At least Jonathan Liew is taking a pasting on Twitter/X. Prat.

MidnightSerenader · 14/02/2024 17:37

The easiest way to silence and demonise us, is to paint us as right-wing nutjobs.

But unfortunately for the gender ideologues, opposition to this misogynistic and homophobic movement is starting to not only come from all walks of life, but be spoken up about from all walks of life.

MagpiePi · 14/02/2024 18:01

byteme1011 · 14/02/2024 16:34

I listened to a really good podcast yesterday 'Sharron Davies reveals the hidden misogyny behind the Olympics' on 'Rachel Johnson's Difficult Women', i didn't even realise she missed out on gold because of the East German doping regime!

Sharron goes into some detail about the East German doping and the misogyny of the IOC in her book ‘Unfair Play’. It is a really good read, but I had to keep putting it down as it was making me so angry!

lieselotte · 14/02/2024 18:11

Apparently if you believe in fair sport for women (at parkrun or elsewhere), you are a right wing nut job in league with antiabortionists.

According to more than one comment in the parkrun discussion group on Facebook. And including Mara and Sharron. People are so badly informed...

Snowchoc · 14/02/2024 18:15

I got myself into a heated discussion on my running club's FB over this. Most people sensibly.stayed out of it, but one man absolutely laid into me about being ungrateful for a free event and how this was the best they could do in the circumstances.

I don't really know who he is, but his Strava would suggest he's not a parkrunner 😆

Anyway, one of the other men from the club contacted me to tell me that man is an arrogant arse and check I was OK. Which is all highly irrelevant, but made me smile.

ChateauMargaux · 14/02/2024 18:43

@Snowchoc .. I am sorry no one stepped in on line to support you. Maybe reply to the man who contacted you privately and suggest that women need vocal and visible support.

DuesToTheDirt · 14/02/2024 19:39

lieselotte · 14/02/2024 18:11

Apparently if you believe in fair sport for women (at parkrun or elsewhere), you are a right wing nut job in league with antiabortionists.

According to more than one comment in the parkrun discussion group on Facebook. And including Mara and Sharron. People are so badly informed...

They have no arguments that stand up to a moment's scrutiny, so they resort to abuse instead.

PaperWalkAndTalk · 14/02/2024 19:39

Why look at the real issues and focus on the male chancers when you can just blame a right-wing culture war?

I assume Isla Bryson was a victim of the right-wing culture war?

Snowchoc · 14/02/2024 19:41

ChateauMargaux · 14/02/2024 18:43

@Snowchoc .. I am sorry no one stepped in on line to support you. Maybe reply to the man who contacted you privately and suggest that women need vocal and visible support.

Several of our male club members have written to parkrun at my request

ChateauMargaux · 14/02/2024 20:17

Snowchoc · 14/02/2024 19:41

Several of our male club members have written to parkrun at my request

That's something I guess..

CarrotSoupwithCheese · 14/02/2024 20:52

Snowchoc · 14/02/2024 19:41

Several of our male club members have written to parkrun at my request

@Snowchoc what is the best way to write to parkrun? I might write in myself…. Today’s open letter from the CEO has really irritated me. What a lot of words to say “I’m right, you’re wrong, get over it.”

Snowchoc · 14/02/2024 21:05

CarrotSoupwithCheese · 14/02/2024 20:52

@Snowchoc what is the best way to write to parkrun? I might write in myself…. Today’s open letter from the CEO has really irritated me. What a lot of words to say “I’m right, you’re wrong, get over it.”

There's a contact us form at the bottom of their website, no idea how successfully rhey get through, but that's what we've got.

byteme1011 · 15/02/2024 09:13

MagpiePi · 14/02/2024 18:01

Sharron goes into some detail about the East German doping and the misogyny of the IOC in her book ‘Unfair Play’. It is a really good read, but I had to keep putting it down as it was making me so angry!

It's now on my ever growing 'to read' list but I can imagine