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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Robinsons Bar Belfast Gardening

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GCITC · 23/01/2024 18:22

A group are taking the above to court after the pub refused to serve them and the barman assaulted one gay man.

The group were told the pub "wouldn't serve terfs."

Story here

www.google.com/amp/s/4w.pub/gay-man-assaulted-by-belfast-pub-manager/amp/

Garden found on the usual site. Search for - Assaulted and refused service at a pub for supporting women’s rights.

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UtopiaPlanitia · 19/09/2024 14:35

highame · 19/09/2024 08:21

What happened about the cake and the gay couple? Is this similar?

Lee v Ashers Baking Co Ltd

https://www.equalityni.org/Lee-v-Ashers

ECNI - Lee v Ashers Baking Co Ltd - summary

Summary of events and legal decisions for Lee v Ashers Baking Co Ltd

https://www.equalityni.org/Lee-v-Ashers

MarieDeGournay · 15/10/2024 09:28

It's all about Graham Linehan again, I see🙄
The initial reporting of this story wasn't so focussed on one individual, was it?
I can't even remember being aware that he was present. But now it's all about him, and his 'anti-trans' notoriety will colour readers' reactions 'oh well if GL was there, they must have been transphobes'..

Abhannmor · 15/10/2024 10:32

It's the Irish Times and Glinner is a Dub. Their editorial board is pretty woke I'd say - but the readership not so much?

lcakethereforeIam · 15/10/2024 10:59

It's clickbait and, I'd say, laziness on the part of the person who wrote the article. Glinner's a sleep, so he'll generate more clicks than a, relatively, anonymous GC woman or gay man. Then Glinner also comes with a load of baggage, the interpretation of which will vary depending on which side of sanity the debate you are. Saves the journalist writing about it. Not much help if you're coming to it cold.

Edited to add

I think the article is pretty balanced. The first sentence is

Lead cases among discrimination claims by Father Ted writer Graham Linehan and other women’s rights campaigners

My bold, it even calls KJK an activist rather than anti-trans. Rereading it I'm actually pleasantly surprised.

MarieDeGournay · 15/10/2024 11:53

lcakethereforeIam it even calls KJK an activist rather than anti-trans. Rereading it I'm actually pleasantly surprised.

I agree about that, I posted somewhere else about the Irish Times showing a bit more balance these days, and how they refer to KJK is a good example.

For a long time it looked as if everything had to be run by TENI [v influential Irish TRA organisation] for comment, e.g. TENI got the final word on Cass when it was reported in the IT.

TENI had an inordinate amount of power in shaping gender legislation in Ireland, they were taken as the one and only source of knowledge and truth by the legislators drafting and discussing proposed laws; it's shocking to read the transcripts of the committee and chamber debates where politicians of all parties outdid each other in placing TENI on a pedestal. Even some of the 'independent witnesses' e.g. medical experts deferred to TENI's 'superior knowledge.
If the IT now has them off speed-dial, that's progress, but there's still an awful lot of TENI legacy to be unpicked.

But to be positive: yes I agree lcakethereforeIam, green shootsSmile

UtopiaPlanitia · 15/10/2024 15:04

MarieDeGournay · 15/10/2024 09:28

It's all about Graham Linehan again, I see🙄
The initial reporting of this story wasn't so focussed on one individual, was it?
I can't even remember being aware that he was present. But now it's all about him, and his 'anti-trans' notoriety will colour readers' reactions 'oh well if GL was there, they must have been transphobes'..

Sure you know what the IT is like, any story with a connection to an Irish person living abroad, or who might have a profile abroad, means they’ll write the article with a focus on the Irish person, especially given that Glinner would be considered by the IT to have a higher profile than the other patrons who were treated so badly.

It’s lazy journalism. God forbid they actually write an article solely about feminists being abused by pub staff 🙄

lcakethereforeIam · 15/10/2024 15:10

Just reread my post from 10.59. It should read 'Glinner's a sleb'! 🤣 Not 'a sleep'. That'll teach me to avoid using slang.

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