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Another one in court

28 replies

WomenShouldStillWinWomensSports · 22/01/2024 22:03

Despicable. They should be reporting this as "he" and "him" IMO. At least they haven't policed the girls' pronoun use. Still awful.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12993077/Transgender-charity-shop-worker-exposed-penis-girls.html
Is anyone collecting a list of these sort of cases on a thread anywhere that I've missed?

Trans charity shop worker exposed 'her penis' to two girls, court told

Samantha Norris, who is transitioning from a man to a woman, is accused of 'glorying' her nudity in front of the girls on two occasions in July, last year.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12993077/Transgender-charity-shop-worker-exposed-penis-girls.html

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lechiffre55 · 22/01/2024 22:12

When I read the 'her penis' with the quote marks around it, I heard the words in Ricky Gervais's voice. The quote marks look like a tiny act of disobedience to me.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?ab_channel=YUH&v=hzyGNvUIB5w

WomenShouldStillWinWomensSports · 22/01/2024 22:23

@lechiffre55 yes I definitely got the impression the journalist/editor wanted to say he/him all the way through (that stray "him" was also a clue). What a shit world we live in where they can't just say a man is a man though.

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Wishitsnows · 22/01/2024 22:26

Another one! At least it is reported as her in quotation marks and the girls referred to he and him throughout their statements and were forced to pretend he wasn’t a man.

Rightsraptor · 22/01/2024 22:27

There is no punishment for any newspaper which prints the truth about an individual's sex.

So why do they persist in telling these lies about these perverted men being women? The quote marks don't alter anything.

They lie.

BobbleWobbleHat · 22/01/2024 22:31

Gross.

WomenShouldStillWinWomensSports · 22/01/2024 22:31

The whole thing makes me want to yell what a guy at work said out loud (very loud) in the office the other week: A WOMAN DOESN'T HAVE A PENIS!

I had no idea they had no legal basis for playing along with this rubbish.

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DuesToTheDirt · 22/01/2024 22:37

If the article said "his penis" you'd simply think, yeah, just another male sex offender.

So actually I find the phrase "her penis" very useful for pointing out the ridiculousness of the trans ideology, and also it shows how transwomen really do not have lady-brains - if they did they wouldn't do this stuff.

SamW98 · 22/01/2024 22:48

But this never happens - apparently 🤷‍♀️

IcakethereforeIam · 22/01/2024 23:18
Angry Cat GIF by LEGO

The 'transitioning to woman' boils my piss. Just print 'transitioning' ffs. Men cannot become women, no matter the wrong sex hormones, the surgery, the clothes, the makeup, the head tilt. It. Is. Impossible!!!

donquixotedelamancha · 23/01/2024 06:33

Rightsraptor · 22/01/2024 22:27

There is no punishment for any newspaper which prints the truth about an individual's sex.

So why do they persist in telling these lies about these perverted men being women? The quote marks don't alter anything.

They lie.

There could be, although I'm pretty certain that there wouldn't be in this situation. The reason they are doing it is very obvious:

  1. That's the word used in court. That's why it's in quotes.
  1. They are taking the piss out of the guidance from various groups by doing exactly what that guidance says.

Personally I think the use of female pronouns for very obvious males is working great for us.

WomanXXWorldsOriginsofMothersofAllNations · 23/01/2024 06:44

Is anyone collecting a list of these sort of cases on a thread anywhere that I've missed?

There is this thread, where we were trying to collect these ‘never happens’ stories, but because we can’t sticky it, it falls off active threads.

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/3348290-It-will-never-happen-resource-thread?

Ohyoudodoyou · 23/01/2024 07:50

Still waiting for the headline that says a man is in court for flashing 'his vagina' at children.

highame · 23/01/2024 08:11

DuesToTheDirt

So actually I find the phrase "her penis" very useful for pointing out the ridiculousness of the trans ideology, and also it shows how transwomen really do not have lady-brains - if they did they wouldn't do this stuff.

I agree. Lots of people still very confused about transwoman and transman and "her penis" is very clear

WomenShouldStillWinWomensSports · 23/01/2024 19:00

@WomanXXWorldsOriginsofMothersofAllNations Thanks, I've added it.

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ZeldaFighter · 15/03/2024 16:53

I don't normally do the "he looks like a killer" thing but the photo above is setting my alarm bells ringing!!!!

IcakethereforeIam · 15/03/2024 16:54

That picture is terrifying 😳

PaterPower · 15/03/2024 18:54

These elements stand out, to me, from the Mirror’s piece:

”After the jury returned its not guilty verdicts, Norris, entered guilty pleas to three charges of making indecent images of children of categories A, B and C, one count of possessing prohibited images of children and a charge of possessing an extreme image depicting a person engaging in sexual activity with an animal.”

And, the Judge seeing his tactics (in delaying the plea) plainly for what they were:

“He [the Judge] added: “It’s pretty blatant to me that you decided not to enter guilty pleas (earlier) as these pleas would have gone in front of the jury of the other matters.”

This guy / his solicitor manipulated the Jury into giving him the benefit of the doubt by delaying his plea. Which meant the jury didn’t hear the abuse elements when deciding on giving him the benefit of the doubt on the indecent exposure charges.

So he traumatised the eleven year old girls (twice - successive days) with his original (alleged) offending, then subjected them to the further trauma of having the court process and ultimately being disbelieved by the jury.

The judge saw him for what he is. It’s a travesty that the jury weren’t given the same opportunity.

Esgaroth · 15/03/2024 19:02

I physically recoiled when I saw that photo, no joke.

Thingybob · 15/03/2024 20:09

So he traumatised the eleven year old girls (twice - successive days) with his original (alleged) offending, then subjected them to the further trauma of having the court process and ultimately being disbelieved by the jury.

He even portrayed himself as the victim.

"Norris, who worked at a Sue Ryder charity shop in her home town of Ringwood, Hampshire, said she had been the victim of abuse from youngsters in the town and she felt these girls had been “taunting” her."

Hampshire Police - News, views, gossip, pictures, video - The Mirror

https://www.mirror.co.uk/all-about/hampshire-police

Boiledbeetle · 15/03/2024 20:16

The sentence does not reflect the suffering of all the children abused for his viewing pleasure.

DuesToTheDirt · 17/03/2024 22:15

@OneOfThoseOldFashionedWomen that's a photo to give you nightmares!

bombastix · 17/03/2024 22:21

Two years. What a failure. He is dangerous to children and he should be detained for far longer than that,

There should be minimum sentences and custodial ones for possession of child abuse images, and two years is nothing.