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JK Rowling called ‘Britain’s nastiest novelist’ in New Statesman

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IwantToRetire · 16/01/2024 01:26

After setting out the examples of nastiness in recent works including The Ink Black Heart and The Running Grave, he stated that Rowling has evolved “from saint-like Labour Party-supporting children’s author to polemical political activist, seemingly obsessive about the tabloid media, Scottish nationalism and, most provocatively for her millennial readers, gender-critical feminism”.

He claimed that she lacks “self-awareness” because she “condemns vicious keyboard warriors and hysterical reactionaries in her books but engages in similar behaviour herself online”.

“In another world, JK Rowling could be a character in a book by Robert Galbraith: brittle, insecure, cruel.”

Following the backlash, the New Statesman appeared to alter the original headline to “JK Rowling, Britain’s Gloriously Nasty Novelist”.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2024/01/15/jk-rowling-called-britains-nastiest-novelist-new-statesman/

I dont think it is a surprise that some male writer would say this. The question is why would the New Statesman want to publish it?

Article behind paywall but can be read at https://archive.ph/LJMFL

JK Rowling called ‘Britain’s nastiest novelist’ in New Statesman review condemned as misogynistic

The article argued that the author has become a ‘polemicist’ and ‘liberal pariah’ because of her views on gender

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2024/01/15/jk-rowling-called-britains-nastiest-novelist-new-statesman

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Buffypaws · 16/01/2024 16:46

PrawnLiberationFront · 16/01/2024 13:17

Stephen King runs a foundation to support artists who can't work due to health conditions, and has fundraised millions to help poor families with heating bills.

Thomas Harris is a long standing volunteer at a wildlife rehabilitation centre.

Just because someone's not shouting about their charitable work doesn't mean they're not doing it.

Oh my god.

Did you not get the joke?

Buffypaws · 16/01/2024 16:53

Thomas Harris is the writer whose character the er people who don’t like Rowling get compared to rather frequently. Particularly those with dogs.

no one ever goes on twitter and says “ahoy there, you remind me of the man in the lady coat from that detective book”. No it’s all “all right bill, put the lotion on its body or precious gets it”.

so yes it seems very unfair that JK gets the tellings off.

GailBlancheViola · 16/01/2024 16:56

Nestofwalnuts · 16/01/2024 16:42

Evidence?

Apparently Nestofwalnuts it is on us to find evidence of that poster's assertions, they shouldn't be asked to do that kind of work. Make of that what you will.

Par for the course with Gender Ideologues though, make a claim and then when asked for evidence to back up that claim - tumbleweed.

CeciledeVolangesdeNouveau · 16/01/2024 17:13

Buffypaws · 16/01/2024 16:53

Thomas Harris is the writer whose character the er people who don’t like Rowling get compared to rather frequently. Particularly those with dogs.

no one ever goes on twitter and says “ahoy there, you remind me of the man in the lady coat from that detective book”. No it’s all “all right bill, put the lotion on its body or precious gets it”.

so yes it seems very unfair that JK gets the tellings off.

Exactly, although there has been a serial killer in history very similar to Buffalo Bill, his proclivities are just played up almost cartoonishly. Tbh I don’t doubt there was a little bit of JK who wanted to stand up to those who have been bullying her after two really quite objectively reasonable tweets and an essay including some very vulnerable disclosures about her history as a victim of DA and chose the way her killer would evade detection/lure victims would pretend to be vulnerable would be to disguise as a woman rather than use a crutch and I think fake cast or equivalent as another serial killer (the one who was supposed to be handsome and would lure girls into his car on the basis that he needed help) In real history did. However I don’t think it’s malice towards trans people. Whereas at least in the film there’s a definite sense that part of why buffalo bill is odd and dangerous is his cross dressing - tbh it’s most of it as he literally wants to wear a woman suit.

JustSpeculation · 16/01/2024 17:14

Jellycats4life · 16/01/2024 15:49

Is this an example of JKR being childish and bragging about money?

Utterly! Let's hope she keeps it up.

viques · 16/01/2024 17:25

IcakethereforeIam · 16/01/2024 14:04

The knitting needles! She forgot the knitting needles! <tenterhooks>

Oops she did! Mind you, would a woman who cares so much about the autonomy and wellbeing of other women really be prepared to destroy another woman’s creativity and hard work in order to plunge a sharp instrument into the ear and brain of her detractor? I think not.

Miss Marple however, has a lovely English garden, containing according to season, daffodils, tulips, hellebores, yew, laburnum, foxgloves, aconitum, arum lilies ……… Herbal tea anyone ? Very calming for those of a choleric nature.

GailBlancheViola · 16/01/2024 17:56

Herbal tea anyone ? Very calming for those of a choleric nature.

Any Valerian tea for deep, deep sleep available?

Jellycats4life · 16/01/2024 19:21

CeciledeVolangesdeNouveau · 16/01/2024 16:17

It’s an example of her responding with wry (and very British) humour and showing her haters that they aren’t getting her down. She probably hasn’t even bought a load of champagne, or if she has it’s a pittance compared to what she gives to charity and she’s allowed to anyway. It’s not like she joked that people had started cancelling even more of her work so she was going to squash a puppy.

I know that 😆 Sorry, I should have made it more obvious. I thought it was really funny. I love it when she claps back.

RoyalCorgi · 16/01/2024 19:58

Nick Hilton and the other haters must be absolutely fuming at the news that the biggest-selling video game of 2023 was Hogwarts Legacy, which sold over 22m copies. It's almost as if trans activists are a tiny, obsessive, utterly lunatic minority, isn't it?

CeciledeVolangesdeNouveau · 16/01/2024 20:02

Jellycats4life · 16/01/2024 19:21

I know that 😆 Sorry, I should have made it more obvious. I thought it was really funny. I love it when she claps back.

Thanks for being generous in response. I’m often slower on the uptake with sarcasm/irony due to being autistic (and probably a bit due to being stupid).

JanesLittleGirl · 16/01/2024 20:28

IcakethereforeIam · 16/01/2024 19:19

Julie B in the Telegraph

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2024/01/16/jk-rowling-nastiest-novelist-row-trans-activists/

https://archive.ph/salq7

Lots on here will be very familiar with the things mentioned in the article, but a few more Telegraph readers might get....a yen to climb a mountain.

The only Telegraph readers who are not already peaked are the ones who only read the racing pages.

hellsBells246 · 16/01/2024 22:36

PrawnLiberationFront · 16/01/2024 13:12

She is downright childish on twitter and regularly bullies and dogpiles much smaller accounts. She also brags about how much money she has which is a bad look on anyone.

Bollocks. JK is measured, considered, witty, wry and humorous on Twitter. Brava!

Jellycats4life · 16/01/2024 22:55

CeciledeVolangesdeNouveau · 16/01/2024 20:02

Thanks for being generous in response. I’m often slower on the uptake with sarcasm/irony due to being autistic (and probably a bit due to being stupid).

I’m autistic too and frequently confuse people when my dry sense of humour gets a bit too dry and people don’t realise that I’m joking 😅

CeciledeVolangesdeNouveau · 17/01/2024 01:51

Jellycats4life · 16/01/2024 22:55

I’m autistic too and frequently confuse people when my dry sense of humour gets a bit too dry and people don’t realise that I’m joking 😅

Lol. My particular brand of humour and general favourite kind is silliness. I bet you and I in a room together would be studiously avoiding each others’ eyes while you cracked jokes and they flew over my head and I just talked about the fish on the horse’s head “floundering”.
Also that response (the previous one, not a fish and horse random situation) reminds me of the time when I was about twenty, went to uni and my social skills dramatically improved. However I then developed a tendency to tell people very proudly. So I’d be like oh oh pick me! Your recent comment was passive aggressive because I read it in this book! I’m really proud of myself!
Needless to say I didn’t increase my popularity. Also one of the reasons I got so much better at interactions at that time was that I joined a very tight-knit society with whom I spent a lot of time (not the bullingdon club lol) and they worked out in about ten minutes that I could probably fly more easily than detect sarcasm so they had a system involving a little hand gesture when someone was being sarcastic (unless it would be more funny to hear a wide-eyed REALLY?).

ErrolTheDragon · 17/01/2024 09:17

I wasn't at all sure who in @viques story was liable to be thinking of murdering whom - not just a whodunnit but a whowasitdunto.Grin (my money is on Miss M dispatching her tedious nephew but having to make it look undetectably accidental as her guest being an ethical soul would have had to dob her in if she'd suspected.)

Ereshkigalangcleg · 17/01/2024 09:39

I got 8/13. Mid table respectability!

Ereshkigalangcleg · 17/01/2024 09:44

Fantastic from Brendan O'Neill, he really does strip it to the bone.

They truly believe that fighting for the right of a bloke to get his knob out in the women’s changing rooms is the new civil-rights issue. And that anyone who thinks women shouldn’t have to look at a knob unless they want to is a horrible bigot. They have no idea how deranged they sound to the rest of us.

What is really ‘brittle, insecure and cruel’ is the noisy trans lobby and its influential allies. These people will melt into a puddle of self-pity and tinny angst if you so much as ‘misgender’ them. They will arrogantly demand access to every women-only space and denounce as a TERF / witch any woman who stands in their way. I’d call that brittle. I’d call that cruel. The sins you people see in Rowling’s behaviour are really your own. It’s time you all grew up, hard as that might be. Wizards aren’t real, women are, and JK Rowling owes you precisely nothing.

Nestofwalnuts · 17/01/2024 09:50

GailBlancheViola · 16/01/2024 16:56

Apparently Nestofwalnuts it is on us to find evidence of that poster's assertions, they shouldn't be asked to do that kind of work. Make of that what you will.

Par for the course with Gender Ideologues though, make a claim and then when asked for evidence to back up that claim - tumbleweed.

Always tumbleweed. Every single time. I used to ask for evidence of JKR's transphobic tweets. Never ever been shown one. Ever. DS1 has swallowed the JKR-evil kool-aid and one day I intend to sit him down and scroll right through the fecking lot, looking for proof.

IcakethereforeIam · 17/01/2024 09:52

8/13 too and I wish I hadn't read some of those excerpts (oddly, not the JKR ones).

Victoria Smith in the Critic

https://thecritic.co.uk/j-k-rowling-is-honest-not-nasty/

This line resonated

For most women, male violence isn’t constant drama. It isn’t falling from balconies in Mayfair, or being stabbed to death in graveyards. It’s a low background noise, always there.

J.K. Rowling is honest, not “nasty” | Victoria Smith | The Critic Magazine

Can you imagine “a Britain populated by paedophiles, domestic abusers, rapists and terrorists”? That, according to the New Statesman’s Nick Hilton, is the Britain of J.K. Rowling’s Robert Galbraith…

https://thecritic.co.uk/j-k-rowling-is-honest-not-nasty

Nestofwalnuts · 17/01/2024 09:54

And the funny thing is, @GailBlancheViola , they never ask us for proof of the misogyny because you barely have to scroll an inch to find some autogynophilic loon threatening to cut off JKR's head, kidnap her child, rape her with their big girl penis etc. And yet her literal violence seems so discreet it's almost...not there? Maybe they think it is invisible like Harry's cloak. Just because you can't see it doesn't mean it doesn't exist. But the difference between reality and fantasy is clearly increasingly hard for some brains to parse.

Boiledbeetle · 17/01/2024 10:01

Ereshkigalangcleg · 17/01/2024 09:44

Fantastic from Brendan O'Neill, he really does strip it to the bone.

They truly believe that fighting for the right of a bloke to get his knob out in the women’s changing rooms is the new civil-rights issue. And that anyone who thinks women shouldn’t have to look at a knob unless they want to is a horrible bigot. They have no idea how deranged they sound to the rest of us.

What is really ‘brittle, insecure and cruel’ is the noisy trans lobby and its influential allies. These people will melt into a puddle of self-pity and tinny angst if you so much as ‘misgender’ them. They will arrogantly demand access to every women-only space and denounce as a TERF / witch any woman who stands in their way. I’d call that brittle. I’d call that cruel. The sins you people see in Rowling’s behaviour are really your own. It’s time you all grew up, hard as that might be. Wizards aren’t real, women are, and JK Rowling owes you precisely nothing.

Had just copied the same bit! So I won't paste it again, but he really does just say it how it is doesn't he!

Ereshkigalangcleg · 17/01/2024 10:01

Maybe they think it is invisible like Harry's cloak. Just because you can't see it doesn't mean it doesn't exist.

That's why they don't like it when she calls them out, with their "much smaller accounts". My heart bleeds.