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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

GC in NZ

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nameychangerrrrrr · 08/01/2024 00:22

I am a British woman who works in a professional role in NZ. I am left wing, hard left some would say, and gender critical. I never used to be, but in the last couple of year have done a complete 180.

I feel like I'm going mad. All of my friends and colleagues accept this ideology uncritically. I am living in anticipation of the day when I will have to come clean. I just don't get it. It seems so obvious to me now what bullshit the ideology is. In the UK I follow so many strong GC women but in NZ it just seems like "be kind" is the mantra.

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nameychangerrrrrr · 23/01/2024 18:07

This is the perfect example of what I’m talking about. “Be kind” “be accepting” - in same breath, F off back to the U.K. if you don’t agree with me

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teawamutu · 23/01/2024 18:10

nameychangerrrrrr · 23/01/2024 18:07

This is the perfect example of what I’m talking about. “Be kind” “be accepting” - in same breath, F off back to the U.K. if you don’t agree with me

I noticed the juxtaposition of 'open-mindedness' and, erm, casual xenophobia as well.

songaboutjam · 23/01/2024 20:37

teawamutu · 23/01/2024 18:10

I noticed the juxtaposition of 'open-mindedness' and, erm, casual xenophobia as well.

It's a pattern I've noticed in certain strands of activism. Minorities who aren't useful to the cause get abuse, usually abuse connected specifically to what gives them a minority status.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 23/01/2024 21:07

I definitely think one reason my husband's posh friends are so fully on board with it is that they get to do all their social justice activism amongst People Like Us, and no longer have to have anything to do with the plebs, like you would if you were involved with anti-racism activism or employment rights or something."

That's beautifully and elegantly savage, Lily. And I think you're dead on.

Wow @LilyBartsHatShop I fully agree. Brilliant insight that I'd never considered.

TempestTost · 24/01/2024 02:47

Eketahuna · 08/01/2024 19:03

I agree - we need a LW female politician to speak up, currently it’s only the RW men. Could be a long time coming, since Labour and the Greens do not tolerate dissenting opinions (I’m an alienated lefty myself).

There are LW women, JKR, Meghan Murphy, Julie Bindle, for example. And right wing women like Helen Joyce. It's by no means all RW men.

They aren't being listened to by these other lw women either, so I don't know that different ones speaking out would make a difference.

nameychangerrrrrr · 24/01/2024 04:23

@TempestTost we’re talking about New Zealand.

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TempestTost · 24/01/2024 10:52

Do you think the pattern will be different there?

nameychangerrrrrr · 24/01/2024 17:37

That’s literally the point of the whole thread?

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TempestTost · 24/01/2024 23:30

nameychangerrrrrr · 24/01/2024 17:37

That’s literally the point of the whole thread?

But women on the left talking about this haven't been listened to by the mainstream left in the UK, Canada, or the US. On the contrary they just get themselves called right wing.

So I don't see why women on the left talking about it in NZ would have a different outcome? Maybe they would, but it wasn't clear in the statement made why that might be the case.

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