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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Brilliant Burchill on Bergdorf.

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WarriorN · 07/01/2024 12:15

https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/what-do-munroe-bergdorf-and-andrew-tate-have-in-common/

Because despite their apparent differences, Tate and Bergdorf – both strange, sexually-tormented outliers of the men’s rights movement – are two testicles of the same scrotum.

😆🤣😂

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quantumbutterfly · 07/01/2024 12:35

What I can read so far without subscription is brilliantly written, in all senses of the word. More sunlight.

RethinkingLife · 07/01/2024 12:38

Gains which took decades to achieve were wiped away in a few strokes of a pen: separate public toilets to uphold privacy and safety; sports to celebrate female bodies in a rare way that isn’t sexual (Sebastian Coe verified this week that sportswomen will never win Olympic gold medals again if they have to compete against men pretending to be women); opportunities at work to recompense for all the centuries of not being allowed to pursue careers – now given over to men in drag.

It should be horribly sobering for anyone who doesn't understand the issues. As ever, it probably comes across like hyperbole to those who don't know what's been going on.

Seb Coe: Transgender athletes free to compete at grass-roots level

World Athletics president adds that females cannot win medals against trans athletes

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/athletics/2024/01/04/seb-coe-transgender-athletes-can-compete-grass-roots-level/

RainWithSunnySpells · 07/01/2024 12:40

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BoreOfWhabylon · 07/01/2024 12:41

quantumbutterfly · 07/01/2024 12:35

What I can read so far without subscription is brilliantly written, in all senses of the word. More sunlight.

Paste the URL into archive.ph

quantumbutterfly · 07/01/2024 12:42

BoreOfWhabylon · 07/01/2024 12:41

Paste the URL into archive.ph

Thank you.
That deletion was quick.

RainWithSunnySpells · 07/01/2024 12:42

OK, my post with an archive link has been hidden. The spectator article is available on the normal archive sites.

WarriorN · 07/01/2024 12:52

I found I could read it via the link on Twitter

x.com/boozeandfagz/status/1743950082783801636?s=46&t=A2fpFNgDRyXF2d6ye97wEA

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WarriorN · 07/01/2024 12:59

It's such a funny piece, thank you Julie!

Not to be confused with Julie Bindel<wags finger>

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CervixSampler · 07/01/2024 13:00

Two testicles of the same scrotum 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 I needed that laugh today.

Datun · 07/01/2024 13:03

You can’t ban women from the workplace in the West as some Middle Eastern countries effectively do, but what you can do, since the onset of mass transophilia in the foremost institutions and corporations of this country, is frustrate female progress by taking many of the most well-paid, high-profile jobs created for women. It would be no surprise to me if the first ‘female’ leader of the Labour Party had a penis.

Unlike other halfwits, Bergdorf doesn’t question the femaleness of great women in history; rather, they play the race-grifter card on the suffragettes. It’s typical of these queer narcissists that the astonishing bravery of the Pankhursts and their girl gang – who routinely faced imprisonment and torture – means nothing to them. Aristocratic suffragettes gave up their class privilege in order to stand shoulder to shoulder with housemaids and mill-girls. Bergdorf still stinks of the male privilege he had when he was born Ian Beaumont to middle-class parents in the village of – wait for it – Stansted Mountfitchet. They probably think that ‘force-feeding’ means being slipped a few carbs before Marbs by a negligent friend.

‘Transwomen’ are doing so well – promoted and published laughably beyond their capabilities – because they really do have the best of both worlds, despite their desire to take top prize at the Victimhood Olympics. They are not concerned with feminism, so they can suck up to men in the way real women once had to. They play the dupes like fiddles, to be fair. ‘Transwomen’ are what a certain sort of angry little man wishes women were still like. Why can’t all feminists be nude models who run club nights called Pussy Palace, as Bergdorf did? What is sexual harassment for us is sexual affirmation for them, as witnessed in that super-creepy piece by Paris Lees in which they gloried in being ‘sexually objectified and treated like a piece of meat’. What a relief this must be to men who are fuming that cat-calling is no longer considered a top turn-on by real women.

I was going to say she nails it in a nutshell. But it's less a nutshell, and more an entire family pack of mixed nuts, shelled, salted, and handed out on a golden plate studded with diamonds.

WarriorN · 07/01/2024 13:05

...on a golden plate studded with diamonds shaped like a scrotum 😆

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Datun · 07/01/2024 13:06

Why can’t all feminists be nude models who run club nights called Pussy Palace, as Bergdorf did?

Okay, that's the nutshell

Eddielizzard · 07/01/2024 13:18

'two testicles of the same scrotum' has got to be the quote of the year. Brilliant article, such clarity and light

quantumbutterfly · 07/01/2024 13:19

TBF a scrotum is a nutshell.

Datun · 07/01/2024 13:21

quantumbutterfly · 07/01/2024 13:19

TBF a scrotum is a nutshell.

Oh bravo!!! 🤣🤣🤣

Datun · 07/01/2024 13:23

Sorry, brava!

(I honestly didn't realise it was a word until I came on to mumsnet. I thought feminists just made it up.)

RethinkingLife · 07/01/2024 13:24

What a relief this must be to men who are fuming that cat-calling is no longer considered a top turn-on by real women.

The men who wish to catcall women must be relieved that they can express this desire and continue such activities when they see a transwoman. Especially those who argue that they are more of a woman, because they elected womanhood (ignoring the argument that it happens at conception), than those born women.

I wonder if we are about to discover that the dopamine hit from a pedestrian | passer-by welcoming this attention as an affirmation rather than nuisance will be all that these catcallers ever craved. If so, I support this if it reduces the overall volume of catcalling.

It will be unfortunate for the transwomen who don't want this but, in this dislike of harassment, they will be sharing the experience of their fellow citizens.

WarriorN · 07/01/2024 13:28

quantumbutterfly · 07/01/2024 13:19

TBF a scrotum is a nutshell.

👏 😆

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Allthegoodnamesarechosen · 07/01/2024 13:29

‘The men who wish to catcall women must be relieved that they can express this desire and continue such activities when they see a transwoman. ‘

I don’t think they would want to, tbh. The fear of being taken at their word by an inappropriately equipped person would be enough to put them off.

Allthegoodnamesarechosen · 07/01/2024 13:30

BY equipment I mean the wrong sort of wristwatch, of course.

Teddleshon · 07/01/2024 13:34

Brilliant piece. The UN is beyond an embarrassment and I don’t know why governments keep funding it.

RapidOnsetGenderCritic · 07/01/2024 13:39

WarriorN · 07/01/2024 13:05

...on a golden plate studded with diamonds shaped like a scrotum 😆

A bauble bawbag.

Helleofabore · 07/01/2024 14:01

Nutbag. Nutsack.

NotYourBrain · 07/01/2024 14:39

This is such an excellent article

dapsnotplimsolls · 07/01/2024 14:45

'Iona Penis'

😁