Men can get pregnant - heathline.com

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So I was reading through health site named above for advice on eating during pregnancy and as the next topic was ‘can men get pregnant?’

this quote in the article actually annoyed me very much:

’As Kaci points out, “There’s nothing inherently feminine or womanly about conception, pregnancy, or delivery. No body part, nor bodily function, is inherently gendered. If your body can gestate a fetus, and that’s something you happen to want — then it’s for you, too.”

the fact that pregnancy etc is now being basically stripped from women too is concerning! Am I being unreasonable???

What age kids are we talking about? Young kids tend to believe what you tell them. Just look at the posts on this forum about 12 year olds being devastated because they've just discovered that Santa isn't real. They must not have applied any critical thinking to it, they've just believed what they're told - especially if they're told these things by figures of authority, like parents or teachers.

“There’s nothing inherently feminine or womanly about conception, pregnancy, or delivery. No body part, nor bodily function, is inherently gendered. If your body can gestate a fetus, and that’s something you happen to want — then it’s for you, too.”

This means that 'woman' is defined as 'being feminine or womanly' and has nothing to do with being female. So we all have been stripped of any sex-based gender identities!

Either we should transition or we are seen as being comfortable with sexists stereotypes about women and with retrogressive gender roles for women.

This has been done without any public consultations.

There's a lot of talk about 'what feels right for you' such as whether to 'chestfeed'. No mention of what is the best thing for the child. Completely up their own arses.

And if evidence shows the effects of testosterone in females is detrimental to the baby or that the family situation of being raised by such a person has a negative effect on the child then it’ll be spun as society’s issue.

i wish the Headlines were more accurate “women who calls themselves men can get pregnant”. Amazing that. If you have a female body (and are the right aged yadda yadda) you can call yourself windiclup the magic unicorn fairy and you still can get pregnant (with the right conditions).

But then it makes no sense that we are kowtowing to it!

It's been pointed out before here but it's such a double standard that they can take really strong hormones that we don't know the long term effects of, whilt regular women are roundly criticised for having a sip of coffee or being on their feet too much during pregnancy !

We do know that taking testosterone during pregnancy can affect the foetus. Of course big study can’t be done as it would be extremely unethical to cause harm to foetuses.

But are you even still a man if you stop taking testosterone during your manly pregnancy? <sarcasm>

I hate that in all of the creation and inflation of the importance of gender identity feelz, being able to talk sincerely and frankly about sex got made so taboo.

I wonder if anyone is tracking the health outcomes of these children "born of men." It would be interesting to see if there's any common issues.

NHS advice is clear, do not take testosterone during pregnancy

www.nhs.uk/pregnancy/having-a-baby-if-you-are-lgbt-plus/testosterone-and-pregnancy/#:~:text=It%20is%20possible%20to%20get,who%20is%20prescribing%20you%20testosterone.

I don't know if there have been any animal studies to explore whether using testosterone before the pregnancy has adverse effects of not.

“This means that 'woman' is defined as 'being feminine or womanly' and has nothing to do with being female. So we all have been stripped of any sex-based gender identities!”

But surely, in reality, not in gender identity belief, womanly describes woman and feminine is just Latin for womanly, as woman in Latin is femina.

La Leche League has published a book called The Womanly Art of Breastfeeding since the 1950’s. For the next edition the gender identity believers who have gained power in the organisation are dropping the word “womanly” from the title because in their opinion men and people who are neither male nor female can feed their babies milk from their own bodies. I put it that way because they also wanted to drop breastfeeding from the title too and call the book The Art of Human Milk Feeding or something like that. I believe that the publisher said it would be a mistake to stray too far from the original well known title.

It seems like a total betrayal of an organisation originally devoted to keeping mothers and babies together and to promoting an evidence based understanding of the importance of mothers and the mother-baby relationship in the healthy development of both mother and baby.

This is another real world example of gender identity zealots trying and succeeding in the linguistic separation of sex based realities from the word woman. It can only be for ideological reasons because there was a time when the goal would have been to assist as many mothers as possible who wanted breastfeeding support and now it seems the goal is to promote gender identity beliefs to women at a vulnerable time in their lives when they have just had a baby and may be desperate for help and information. This is a far cry from building a woman’s confidence that she is the best mother for her baby and that she is the one her baby needs most in all the world. The message now seems to be anyone can feed a baby “human milk” by whatever means, this completely devalues mothering and breastfeeding as it used to be conceptualised by LLL.

Sometimes I wonder if formula companies are funding organisations which push gender identity inspired language changes, they stand to gain from the destruction of all the volunteer
breastfeeding support organisations.

I don't actually think the formula companies are doing that. They literally just want to make profits.
The erasure of women is a trans activist thing.

I meant in general for the long term effects. Anyone with half a brain can see it's bad during pregnancy.

Ok, you said 'during pregnancy' re criticism of other women so I thought that's what you meant.

With that set of reasoning, yes, because no body parts are specifically gendered so certainly women can get testicular cancer if they have testes, which are not, of course, gendered. Batshit crazy.

Utter shitwittery.

NHS advice is clear, do not take testosterone during pregnancy

I should hope so too. When I was pregnant a pharmacist told me they couldn't even advise me to use suntan lotion during pregnancy .

With that set of reasoning, yes, because no body parts are specifically gendered so certainly women can get testicular cancer if they have testes, which are not, of course, gendered. Batshit crazy.

Which then leaves us why they're talking about something irrelevant to health like "gender" rather than using their space to talk about something relevant, such as, say "sex".

Imagine - you could create some quite well-targeted health information if you were to pay attention to that, rather than "gender". You could have specialist information targeting the particular issues of particular subpopulations. Radical thought.

Lol in your dreams. These people are deluded in more ways than one.

“Gender” and “gender identity” are rooted in sex - whether it’s “woman” gender identity, “man” gender identity or something like non-binary that rejects sexed gender identities. If gender wasn’t linked to sex, where did gender ideologues get these categories from?

and if body parts aren’t related to gender, why are “transgender’ people taking opposite-sex hormones and having breasts and penises removed and fake ones constructed? These things are material realities of sex. it seems sex matters when they decide it does and not when trying to convince others/themselves that sexual functions aren’t sex-based, which they only do to try to support the notion that sex can change or somehow be “wrongly assigned’ - which also necessitates an acceptance of bodily sex categories.

if this whole shebang wasn’t based on sex, the categories would have nothing to do with sex. They’d be like star signs or something.

Kaci is clearly as mad as a ship's cat. The end.

There are also TW all over Twitter and TikTok lamenting that they’re jealous of real woman and insisting that they have periods and saying they’re going to get uterus transplants - one even disgustingly boasted about planning to be the first TW to have an abortion. Some TRAs say women shouldn’t talk about periods and pregnancy etc because it makes poor sad TW feel left out.

But if men can get pregnant and pregnancy is irrelevant to gender, and there’s no such thing as a biological woman, what are TW fussing about? Getting pregnant is just a function of having randomly been allocated a function uterus and ovaries and some people have them and some don’t, irrespective of gender. Or is there such a thing as a woman after all - the women those TW envy, want to be, and don’t want to allow separate spaces?

it’s almost as if it all makes no fucking sense!

And I don’t understand why organisations that give out health info are so committed to promoting ideas that make no sense and don’t hold up logically. They wouldn’t do this with any other area of health.