Sex matters when it comes to Non-Binary races

[Justme56]

https://bmjopensem.bmj.com/content/9/4/e001662

https://x.com/johnarmstrong5/status/1737785399009763828?s=46&t=ZX_bLozRqm8etdGICMcAvA

Jesus. I can't believe they have to do this. Men outperform women by the same margin even if they call themselves non binary. No shit Sherlock. Why any credence is given to gender identity theory is beyond me. Just fuck off and stop wasting our time.

In other news, water is wet.

Results There was no evidence that controlling for age, natal-sex differences in running performance are lower among non-binary athletes. Natal-male non-binary athletes outperform natal-female non-binary athletes at a confidence level of p=0.1%.
Conclusions Both natal sex and gender identity may be useful explanatory variables for the performance of athletes in mass-participation races. It is, therefore, valuable to include both variables in data collection.

So gender identity makes no difference to performance, but might explain (non-existent) differences in performance?

Post title completely baffled me before clicking the article. I hadn't considered it was about sport, thought it was some Rachel Dolezal type nonsense.

What has it come to when you need a scientific study to prove the bleeding obvious?
Next up, the defecation habits of bears in tree dominant eco systems, and, the religious preferences of popes?
🙄

Actually, though it is a "no-shit" paper, it does indicate that gender critical empirical research has been both funded and published.

Which is certainly progress from the previous situation where captured journals refused to publish such work.

It's daft, but it's a good sign.

Fucking huge surprise! Who would have thunk it!

No surprise and ridiculous that it needs research - but starting from here it’s very useful research!

The fact that studies and papers like these are even getting the time of day just shows that we've become ridiculously backwards in our thinking as a race.

Of course men are always going to outperform women in physical activity.

Well, colour me fucking surprised

I did find this interesting:

Our exploratory analysis indicates that non-binary athletes may have slower race times than other athletes once one controls for sex and age, but one would wish to confirm this with a larger data set as this is on the boundary of statistical significance. Data gathered on gender non-conforming college students by the American College Health Association suggest that gender non-conforming students are less likely to meet exercise recommendations, have increased rates of obesity and have higher rates of physical and mental health issues; these factors affect levels of fitness and training status. A complex range of factors associated with non-binary status could account for any association with slower race times. We do not wish to suggest causality in either direction.

How to say that some athletes do not train as hard as other athletes.

Not an issue really, EXCEPT that they demand their own prize money now. If there is a disability, those athletes would compete in events designed for those disabilities surely.

This is absolutely top class trolling. Well done those researchers. I hope they get thousands of citations.

Except it isn't, water can make things wet though.

‘Since the race results do not provide the sex of non-binary athletes, the sex of non-binary athletes was either derived from previous races they had run, or where this wasn’t available, the researchers used a novel technique to model the sex of athletes probabilistically based on their given names’
😂

the researchers used a novel technique to model the sex of athletes probabilistically based on their given names

😂😂

Next up, the defecation habits of bears in tree dominant eco systems, and, the religious preferences of popes

😂😂

😂 Surely this is actually from Private Eye?

And the sky isn’t blue either.

HTH

Why isn't water wet? It wets (sticks to) other water, after all, thus, erm, self-wetting.

"the researchers used a novel technique to model the sex of athletes probabilistically based on their given names"

that's hilarious

That Twitter / X thread from one the paper’s authors is classic. Screenshots attached for X non-users.

I’ve heard that water has a surprisingly high moisture content - maybe that’s it?

Tsk tsk tsk, isn’t that what pronouns are for? I mean , what is the point of going to the trouble of selecting your favourite pronouns, insisting everyone respects you by using them all the time even when it doesn’t make a blind bit of difference because you aren’t within listening distance, banging on about them on X and your email accounts until the cows come home, confusing your granny , and then some tosser of a researcher completely ignores your genuine feelingz and uses your name?

Sorry but where’s your reference from a peer reviewed journal proving this assertion?

I’m not sure if Dr Rush has produced any peer reviewed papers on this topic - but he’s got a PhD and he’s a mathematician at a posh university so it must be true.