NHS bmi

[MarthaMayWho]

I was well versed on the NHS Bmi. You used to have to put in male or female and your ethnicity. Changing the sex used to massively skew whether you were in the health zone or not.

NHS bmi tool now has no option to choose sex so now a blanket bmi.

Surely this is going to cause problems?

So put me in detention then.

I was just trying to help by explaining the simple calculation if you don't like the website.

The healthy range has been the same for a very long time so I don't understand the problem.

https://www.who.int/europe/news-room/fact-sheets/item/a-healthy-lifestyle---who-recommendations

This is dated 2010 with the ranges the same, overweight just called pre-obesity, for adults of either sex, 20 and over. What has changed recently?

Well numerous people have explained why it's a problem.

But you keep on with your 'simple explanations', but they don't tally with the changes made to the actual website.

It's not super feminist to expect women to have to do extra work no matter how 'simple' it is. Whether that's mentally realising we're now referred to as 'period people' or changing a tool which helps them track a healthy weight.

The problem is that there are steps along the way to a healthy weight and that the tracker when using sex was useful to track this for a female body without using mathematical equations that are not common knowledge. Why are you insisting that women have to do extra work when a simple calculator did a reasonable job for the average women to help track weight loss.

The healthy range hasn't changed for me with the new look website. What are you saying has changed? I never clicked male as I am not a man but the healthy range is the same as it was when I clicked female before.

I find it much simpler and quicker to use the calculator on my phone than going onto the website, it saves work for me.

It's the advice and the visuals and yes, the healthy range.

No, I'm not a man but I would regularly mess around with the same weight and height to see the difference between the sexes. I use the thing regularly as I have been having to lose a lot of weight.

And that's great for you, but as with all these things we don't say ya boo sucks to you just because another women's numeracy, literacy, technology access or time does not tally with our own.

The same as I know that calorie tracker apps work for a lot of people but as someone with an eating disorder history I know it's not helpful for me. If they became less usable for women I wouldn't be insisting it wasn't a problem because they don't work for me.

It's really tiresome.

I have used the old website, the healthy range is the same on the new one as it was for a female on the old one.

You need less technology and time to type something like 55÷1.65÷1.65 into a calculator than you do to access a website. It was just an alternative though, if you wanted to avoid the website!

And yet others have found that it does change their range. That stupid little equation is about as useful as typing in boobs on the calculator in comparison. No visual. No advice. No suggestion of percentage to go. So no it doesn't fit the remit. Kindly stop suggesting it.

Just don't use the website/changing room/ sport racking my brains. Where have I heard that before...

The tool hasn’t changed though. Sex has absolutely no impact on BMI.

Why does it change one women's range, but not another's? Healthy bmi has been 18.5 to 25 for years.

I wasn't telling anyone not to use it, I was trying to give a simpler alternative that some may find easier. I will suggest what I like thank you.

Sex has never been used in the calculation. It's weight over m2 I think

Yes, DH is cleary underweight on those tables, which I would agree with.

That would be a reasonable argument IF it wasn’t being presented to individuals to work out their own BMI