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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Dylan Mulvaney half empty show

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DinoDays · 07/12/2023 00:52

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12832559/Dylan-Mulvaney-Penn-State-talk-transition-Bud-Light.html

Or half full depending on your take.

Mulvaney said it was 'amazing' to be recognized by Forbes, adding: 'I think I am becoming a bit of a businesswoman.
'As much as I love the creative side, I love getting smarter: I want to know everything, and how it all works. Of course being in front of the camera, but I love the idea of producing and I think, why not learn it all.'

I'm loving they had a VIP waiting list for when it sold out.

Oh dear. How sad. Never mind.

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MargotBamborough · 07/12/2023 09:08

NotTerfNorCis · 07/12/2023 07:57

Because Dylan has built a career out of taking the piss out of women.

This.

Topofthemountain · 07/12/2023 09:13

Dylan's five minutes of fame is ending, but the damage caused will last a lot longer.

Helleofabore · 07/12/2023 09:19

Speaking of talks at USA Universities, this one seems to have been very apt for Mulvaney’s actions. I cannot wait to see Holly’s speech on this.

https://x.com/aytchellesse/status/1732595299917430819?s=46&t=HTxp6zC_d4GZ2FFv4a-YeQ

Holly was part of the debate at Princeton about whether it is morally wrong for a man to claim to be a woman. It feels like a significant moment. It wasn’t protested and she wasn’t abused.

I think the tide has turned and I think the future generations will not view Mulvaney with kindness.

https://x.com/aytchellesse/status/1732595299917430819?s=46&t=HTxp6zC_d4GZ2FFv4a-YeQ

Zebracat · 07/12/2023 09:20

@RedToothBrush . I think the transdemic might be over too, although, not sadly in the social circles of my adult dcs. I was relieved, but now I’m worried. What kind of backlash do you envisage?

RedToothBrush · 07/12/2023 09:38

Zebracat · 07/12/2023 09:20

@RedToothBrush . I think the transdemic might be over too, although, not sadly in the social circles of my adult dcs. I was relieved, but now I’m worried. What kind of backlash do you envisage?

You've got all these activists with no where to go politically. They've got used to being enabled. When the politicians start to go cold on them and they start to say "no" there's likely to be issues because unfortunately these are radicalised extremists.

I think there is going to be a big backlash in Canada. The next election should be interesting. I think laws there will be targeted and reversed. So there will also be a feeling of lost rights (which would be correct, but this will only be equalising women rights back to where they should be before they were removed).

The scary one is the US if Trump gets back in - which I think might well happen looking at the numbers and the momentum there. I think it was the Washington Post that wrote a piece about him being a Caesar like figure who will dismantle democracy. In that scenario all bets are off in terms of how that will go down and how it will impact on a federal level. He will have control of the Supreme Court and put it in Republican hands for at least a generation.

I think we are looking at militancy level stuff in the US in that scenario. We have young males with access to guns who regard this as a matter of life and death and that they are facing a genocide. Some of them are particularly fixated and have clear comorbidities which (due to the cracking US health system and activism refusing to address mental health in trans people as it's transphobic) are somewhat concerning. It's a volatile mix and I don't think it's one thats too beyond the realms of possibility. They will look for people to blame.

You also have incels who again are going to be fuelled by Trump rhetoric and anti LGBT feelings to take this out on all LGBT groups.

Lesbians get the particularly shitty deal being caught between the trans activists and incels.

And just wait until the law suits start to roll in. Which they will. We have already started to cross that bridge.

I think the UK is probably insulated against the worst of it for a variety of reasons. Because we've held the line to a degree. It depends on what Labour do and how much things burn out in other places before Labour do anything. I don't think there is as much willingness to do things as suggested. I think it is liable to get shunted down the agenda with other things taking priority (hopes).

But yeah, I don't think it will be pretty.

DinoDays · 07/12/2023 09:42

I think we are about to enter the really rather unpleasant backlash stage.

I agree and also for LGB. Ridiculous books like Grandad's Pride, which has BDM images, just reinforces an outdated gay stereotype.

But back to Dylan, as a precious poster pointed out, the event was free but they still couldn't get the attendance!!! The TRA's are all for twittering (or Xing, wherever it's called now) and showing up with placards to bully women but actually being interested in it.

Nope!

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Rightsraptor · 07/12/2023 09:53

Oh I will, @DreamTheMoors, I will.

You made statements about OP that you can't know are true or false. And Mulvaney has harmed all women to some extent by behaving in that utterly ridiculous ditzy manner.

When Mulvaney was at peak goading of women a few months back, I read an article discussing the utter befuddlement of show business insiders in California about how Mulvaney had got to be in that position.

They outlined how Mulvaney's talent s recognised in the business as being somewhat sparse, with many other people being much more suited to play this role - and it was made clear that it is a role, an acting role. Mulvaney is represented now by an agent who normally only creams off the top talent.

So something is going on.

Fenlandia · 07/12/2023 09:53

I would have more sympathy with the "don't be cruel" position if I hadn't seen pictures of Dylan gazing at a tampon (gross) or advertising women's sports bras (he's skinny af and has no need of them). Dylan might have persuaded Drew Barrymore to get on her knees but ordinary people who aren't in showbiz bubbles don't buy into it.

Dylan Mulvaney half empty show
SinnerBoy · 07/12/2023 09:58

Well, I'm amazed that he even managed to get it half full.

DinoDays · 07/12/2023 10:00

Omg. I'd missed this! WTF

Dylan Mulvaney half empty show
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WinterParakeets · 07/12/2023 10:03

I was offered free seat filler tickets the other day to a talk dear Eddie I'm a Laydee Izzard is giving at BFI. Apparently he can no longer fill a central London venue. i wonder why.

OceanicBoundlessness · 07/12/2023 10:03

He looks ill in the photo. Worryingly thin. I know it's been commented on before but it's really striking now

nobodysdaughter · 07/12/2023 10:14

Oh drew! What are you DOING?
The tik tok bubble has burst for many creators, leaving them completely fenced in peddling the same boring stuff they went viral for.
Mulvaney and their fluffy, vapid message seems dated even in this short, but escalated by social media, time scale.
My DD 12s generation seem tired and jaded from "be kind" and I'm glad. I'm hoping the backlash involves some good old fashion radical feminism, but I'm not holding my breath.

Noshowlomo · 07/12/2023 10:31

Fuck him and Jeffrey Marsh. Dangerous men

DinoDays · 07/12/2023 10:59

WinterParakeets · 07/12/2023 10:03

I was offered free seat filler tickets the other day to a talk dear Eddie I'm a Laydee Izzard is giving at BFI. Apparently he can no longer fill a central London venue. i wonder why.

Ooooo interesting!

Did you go or did you have something more important to do like pick up the autumn leaves from your garden with a pin?

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Zebracat · 07/12/2023 11:08

@RedToothBrush Thanks for the explanation. That all makes sense. I’m trying to think what this might mean, not so much for the Dylans, because I really can’t see that as anything other than a cynical piece of parody, but for the trans boys and girls I know, and know of, with their carefully constructed trans identities but also with a host of comorbidities jostling for space. They have so much invested in this bubble, and so many barriers to successful work and family life, which is what keeps most people going. I think there will be so much suicide and despair, rage turned inwards rather than outwards.
Either way, definitely a shitshow.

PaperWalkAndTalk · 07/12/2023 11:15

I think everyone has pretty much made their mind up over this grifter, so what we should be focusing on is not so much him but the organisers who seem like they spent the majority of their time making arrangements for the demand and waiting lists for the (not so) sold-out event.

The problem is not so much the self-identified trans people themselves but those in power (who aren't) and keep pushing it onto everyone else. These organisers have over-inflated the popularity and it was the same with the Budweiser executives, we've also seen the same in publishing. Mulvaney wouldn't have the influence if he wasn't promoted so heavily in the mainstream.

It's good to hear that this is falling out of fashion with children (probably because it's not so alternative any more), but it's those in charge that need to drop it and to stop forcing it on everyone.

aname1234 · 07/12/2023 11:16

is Dylan doing it just to get attention or is he really vindictive and intentionally misogynistic? he doesn't seem to bright tbh. he seems like a kid who likes getting attention, but people are actually giving it to him

StarlightLime · 07/12/2023 11:20

DinoDays · 07/12/2023 10:00

Omg. I'd missed this! WTF

Why is Drew Barrymore kneeling??

ZeldaFighter · 07/12/2023 11:27

I'm worried for gay people. Putting LGB and T together means that a pushback against trans ideology seems to mean pushing back against LGB rights. I have absolutely no problem with gay people - they have never once invaded my spaces. I don't want to see gay people being victimised because I don't want self-identified men in women's prisons.

tellmewhenthespaceshiplandscoz · 07/12/2023 11:27

DreamTheMoors · 07/12/2023 03:17

Why are you gloating over someone you don’t know, will never meet and who has absolutely no effect on your life whatsoever?

Whomever it may be, that seems a bit cruel.

What Grumpy says down thread. This individual takes the piss out of actual women while claiming to be one coz that's how they feel. And clearly happy to monetise this fiction

But I have learned that any kindness or compassion is a strictly one way street reserved for those with a gender thing going on.

Maybe when this empathy becomes more reciprocal I'll be a bit kinder.

tellmewhenthespaceshiplandscoz · 07/12/2023 11:29

DinoDays · 07/12/2023 10:00

Omg. I'd missed this! WTF

Woman bows down to a man.Sad

OutOfSyncWithReality · 07/12/2023 11:30

ZeldaFighter · 07/12/2023 11:27

I'm worried for gay people. Putting LGB and T together means that a pushback against trans ideology seems to mean pushing back against LGB rights. I have absolutely no problem with gay people - they have never once invaded my spaces. I don't want to see gay people being victimised because I don't want self-identified men in women's prisons.

Me too. But also because of the rise of the far right. It's starting to feel like a bit of a perfect storm.

StarlightLime · 07/12/2023 11:32

ZeldaFighter · 07/12/2023 11:27

I'm worried for gay people. Putting LGB and T together means that a pushback against trans ideology seems to mean pushing back against LGB rights. I have absolutely no problem with gay people - they have never once invaded my spaces. I don't want to see gay people being victimised because I don't want self-identified men in women's prisons.

That is exactly why they latched onto gay rights. It was no accident.

Waitingfordoggo · 07/12/2023 11:36

This is very gratifying indeed. I particularly like the long winded mini-essay about going on a waitlist when the tickets inevitably get snapped up, and then queuing up in the hope that you might get a seat. 😂