Museum reclassifies Roman emperor as trans woman

[HelenaRavenclaw]

https://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-67484645

How long till Boudica is classified as a trans man? (Surely a "cis" woman would never lead a rebellion?)

Hi! my name is Arabellum and my pronouns are id/eius/ei/id/eo

Don’t you mean “Nouerint certe muti Britanni hunc unum e limo traherent”?

** thanks Google translate 😂

My son is currently doing Classic Civilisations in 6th form and is planning to go to university next year to study history. He brought this up at the dinner table tonight.

He's as GC as they come, despite the fact that all the 'young un's' are supposed to be more enlightened or whatever and was talking about what a load of tosh this all is.

I've just come back from a week in Athens and am currently listening to Mythos (Stephen Fry) on Audible, I don't claim to be a very learn ed person, I don't speak latin etc. But.... they've all been fucking stonewalled haven't they?

Even Fry in Mythos talks about gender.

This is an Agenda to make gender more important than women which seems terribly patriarchal to me.

But a male LibDem councillor with no expertise in that area knows better than the female Cambridge academic, obviously.

Here is Arabellum.These are her pronouns.

Hic est Arabellum. Haec sunt pronomina eius.

Here is Arabellum.These are his pronouns.

Hic est Arabellum. Haec sunt eius pronomina.

Roman pronouns were not prominent, were rarely gendered, never sexed and only used for emphasis or to support a sentence that had no verb. E.g. "Et tu Brute". Which, incidentally, was a line in a play written by some bloke from Warwickshire and not spoken by Caesar.

Love Tom Holland (historian, have no view on actor)

God what a load of bollocks.

Thanks. I'm even more confused now! 😁

This.

I think so @HelenaRavenclaw . Unfortunately I’ve given my copy of Emperor away but she expressed it in terms of “these emperors, you never know where you are with them”.

I guess one of the silver linings of being entirely unremarkable and unknown in public life is that no one is going to trans me in a couple of thousand years.

My husband once sang 'Man, I feel like a woman' at a karaoke night. I think it would be kind to change his pronouns for him now. I think that's the rule, right? If a man, under any circumstances, declares that he is a woman even one time then get it on his fucking gravestone

Also, Eddie Izzard specifically stated that he didn't mind people calling him 'he' and 'Eddie' (grabbing the highest privileges afforded to both sexes in one fell swoop but you know, putting that aside) so WTF do people insist on 'honouring' his ridiculous alter-ego pronouns in serious articles? I was speaking to a friend (ex-friend perhaps) and she told me off for calling him Eddie, and told me I was being hateful. HE SAID HE DIDN'T MIND

Well fuck all that shit I'm out

They chose the most perverse, bloodthirsty and dangerous Roman Emperor other than Caligula.

Quite fitting tbh.

They can have him!

I fell out of love with academic Classics in the early 00s when West Coast scholars started applying Butlerian theories of gender to sexual relations in acnient Greece and Rome. Total bullshit and non-empirical but the notions still float around the academy.

I'll stick with re-reading the Odyssey and give academic Classics, and the trans-ing of Classics, the middle finger.

Pronouns declensions, eh?

'I decline pronouns.'

Yep, that works.

@TheCountessofFitzdotterel I know it's so sad. As someone who works in heritage and museum education it is sad and shocking how few staff in the decision making roles have any passion let alone qualifications in history, archeology or classics. Lots of us boots on the ground have a passion for and qualifications related to history, archeology, classics ect. The marketing directors and those "spokespeople" for the museum are the worst for having no passion or appreciation for the past, they just like to posture in front of the camera claiming to represent the newest SJW fad.

Transing the dead seems to be fashionable.

William Ferguson: How Trans Rights Activists Are Declaring The Dead "Trans" As They're No Longer With Us And Can't Object To The Anachronism

https://williamaferguson.substack.com/p/trans-out-your-dead?s=r

Well done for sticking it out.
I just do freelance and volunteering I enjoy for very carefully selected organisations these days. Independent museums/trusts and historic houses tend to be a lot less bound by fashionable policies and can still be just as innovative and forward looking, while retaining a much clearer idea of what their actual purpose is. Local authority museums are a lost cause imo. University museums might recover one day but only if universities manage to sort themselves out.

Oh, was he that one? I've got a rather nice picture of that 'event'. Looks very pretty. Doubt it happened - but then...Caligula...Tiberius....nutjobs in general....

Well the tide is turning now so maybe dead people who can't object are the new targets.

There will be a reason for wanting to change history I am just too tired today to work out what the long game is with them.

@TheCountessofFitzdotterel I am so jealous. I would love to work for an independent. LA museum here and it is so hard to bite my tongue sometimes with some of the fashionable policies.

They consulted Stonewall? That bit made me LOL!

Bad news: once you're a gonner your bones will instantly reveal the indisputable, inescapable fact of your sex.

Death is the great leveller. It doesn't give a shit about your innate sense of a 'gender' identity, and there's nothing you can do to 'cancel' it for its bigoted disregard of trans rights.

Death is the ultimate TERF.

An article on this appeared on social media today. The comments were all, without exception, amused and exasperated, and spoke of patience now gone for all this.

The pretty picture is probably 'The Roses of Heliogabalus' by Sir Laurence Alma-Tadema (originally Lourens Alma Tadema), a Dutch artist who settled in London.

He was matey with the Pre-Raphaelites. His work was popular in his day, fell out of favour later and became fashionable again in the 1960s.