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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Pro-Palestine Trans rights activists chant at Leeds Let Women Speak

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IwantToRetire · 19/11/2023 01:12

I have been without internet acess until a few hours ago, and so didn't watch today's live stream - so this headline makes it sound like yet again women were being told they had not right to speak.

Pro-Palestine Trans rights activists stormed a women’s rights demonstration in Leeds, with reports of chants about Israel.

The Let Women Speak gathering has been taking place in Park Square, Leeds city centre, this afternoon (Saturday, November 18). At about 12.45pm, a pro-Palestine/Trans rights group descended on the event.

The feminist Let Women Speak group calls for rights to sex-segregated spaces and its protest is unrelated to the Israel-Gaza war.

More at https://www.leeds-live.co.uk/news/leeds-news/pro-palestine-trans-rights-activists-28131970

Link to video of today's LWS
(if this is the wrong link please post correct one - thansk!)

Pro-Palestine Trans rights activists chant at Leeds women's rights demonstration

The angry mob could be heard chanting 'from the river to the sea'

https://www.leeds-live.co.uk/news/leeds-news/pro-palestine-trans-rights-activists-28131970

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Apollo441 · 19/11/2023 01:14

They really are thick fuckwits.

PerfectPenquins · 19/11/2023 01:14

They are total idiots. They don't see how ridiculous they are after calling women nazis for years then it turns out they have been the real nazis all along!

NitroNine · 19/11/2023 01:42

Nice to see Let Women Speak described accurately by the press.

As for the rest… I struggle to comprehend that level of stupidity & indeed that level of raging hatred. As a combination it’s highly dangerous.

I also have incredible second-hand embarrassment: just imagine proudly publicly parading your ignorance & intolerance like the TRAs?! I suppose it explains how they believe all the “most vulnerable” codswallop: turns out they’re in permanent Opposite Day mode. I don’t know what else could explain how the cognitive dissonance of calling for the genocide of Jews while accusing women of being fascists for believing they [should] have rights & freedoms doesn’t cause an actual aneurysm 🤷‍♀️ 🤦‍♀️

Thingybob · 19/11/2023 01:48

From the videos posted online the TRAs weren't chanting about Palestine, they were chanting 'From the river to the sea, Yorkshire will be fascist/transphobe free'

NitroNine · 19/11/2023 03:47

Jaysus.

Trying to directly align themselves with the Palestinian people who are suffering so horrifically at the moment really is a new low in the Oppression Olympics.

Obviously if they’re announcing their plans to finally avail themselves of the sea, that is delightful & they should crack on. They’re not though. Yet again they’ve shown up to threaten women for daring to to talk about the fact they are a discrete group who have rights. This time around they’re casually threatening a spot of mass-murder. I’m sure they’d say they totally don’t mean that. They just want to drive these women from their homes, occupations, & local support networks - totally reasonable. And obviously it wouldn’t involve any baseball bats wrapped in barbed-wire or anything.

I wonder how many of them could tell you which river it is they’re chanting away about when in reference to Yorkshire. Without Googling, I mean.

Sausagenbacon · 19/11/2023 07:14

They really are thick fuckwits.
Yes

JustSpeculation · 19/11/2023 07:41

"... a women’s rights demonstration in Leeds..."

I don't think I've seen such accuracy by a third party reporting site before. Is this the first time?

oviedo · 19/11/2023 07:54

That was a good article - really surprising in Leeds!
The tide is turning and people are becoming less tolerant of these middle class idiots.

Boiledbeetle · 19/11/2023 07:55

Do the TRAs ever come up with a slogan/chant that they haven't stolen from another group?

This particular one just made it obvious how bloody stupid these people actually are.

Rightsraptor · 19/11/2023 08:44

I was at Leeds LWS yesterday and I disagree with the article: there was no 'storming' at all.

The police did their job well (thank you, WYP) and kept us separate. We were in one corner of the square (which is enclosed by iron railings) and the Mob were diagonally opposite and, as far as I could see, on the street outside the railings. Lots of police, including a horse or two. For me, 'storming' would involve the mixing of the two groups.

The Mob made their usual noise and chanted mindless slogans. I'd be interested to know which sea they were chanting about (as if their geography is that good!). The river will be the Aire, but is it the North Sea or the Irish sea? No idea.

Plus, we were a rally and they were the protest.

RoyalCorgi · 19/11/2023 10:17

Thingybob · 19/11/2023 01:48

From the videos posted online the TRAs weren't chanting about Palestine, they were chanting 'From the river to the sea, Yorkshire will be fascist/transphobe free'

That manages to be both stupid and offensive.

Par for the course, then.

Villagetoraiseachild · 19/11/2023 10:20

The meeting itself was great tho and online sound excellent.
Well worth a watch.
Didn't even hear the tras.

Abhannmor · 19/11/2023 10:46

Rightsraptor · 19/11/2023 08:44

I was at Leeds LWS yesterday and I disagree with the article: there was no 'storming' at all.

The police did their job well (thank you, WYP) and kept us separate. We were in one corner of the square (which is enclosed by iron railings) and the Mob were diagonally opposite and, as far as I could see, on the street outside the railings. Lots of police, including a horse or two. For me, 'storming' would involve the mixing of the two groups.

The Mob made their usual noise and chanted mindless slogans. I'd be interested to know which sea they were chanting about (as if their geography is that good!). The river will be the Aire, but is it the North Sea or the Irish sea? No idea.

Plus, we were a rally and they were the protest.

This chant makes no sense at all. The Jordan runs north - south parallel to the Mediterranean coast whereas rivers in Yorkshire run west - east into the North Sea. And which river is meant ? The Aire , Tees , Humber?

Of course it could be the Mersey and they propose to annex Lancashire!

Signed , A Tiresome Pedant .

SinnerBoy · 19/11/2023 11:03

Abhannmor · Today 10:46

I was going to make the very same point, explaining that the geomorphology of the region, resulting from rock faults, means that the rivers run broadly West to East.

What a gang of dolts.

Imnobody4 · 19/11/2023 11:22

This is just so pathetic. I'd love to be a fly on the wall at the planning meeting. What idiots.

donquixotedelamancha · 19/11/2023 11:26

PerfectPenquins · 19/11/2023 01:14

They are total idiots. They don't see how ridiculous they are after calling women nazis for years then it turns out they have been the real nazis all along!

It's always puzzled me why they call feminists Nazis. For the era the Nazis were very supportive of trans rights- especially when you compare to their treatment of every other minority.

https://nationalpost.com/news/cross-dressing-nazis-a-german-artist-found-so-many-photos-of-them-he-published-a-book-about-it

https://www.facebook.com/sbsnews/videos/why-was-cross-dressing-so-common-in-the-wehrmacht/285982502047435/

(to be clear- there was a law against cross dressing and some people were charged under it but they were almost all either non-aryan or disabled. Transvestitism amongst party members and the military was widely tolerated, more so than in allied countries)

Cross-dressing Nazis: A German artist found so many photos of them he published a book

Ironically, all these cross-dressing soldiers were fighting for a regime that sent actual transvestites to concentration camps

https://nationalpost.com/news/cross-dressing-nazis-a-german-artist-found-so-many-photos-of-them-he-published-a-book-about-it

Villagetoraiseachild · 19/11/2023 11:26

Planning meeting will be, Comrade this and Comrade that....
Very Citizen Smith, if anyone here old enough!

SunnieShine · 19/11/2023 11:31

@SinnerBoy "gang of dolts" 😁

quantumbutterfly · 19/11/2023 11:33

Villagetoraiseachild · 19/11/2023 11:26

Planning meeting will be, Comrade this and Comrade that....
Very Citizen Smith, if anyone here old enough!

Long way from Tooting though.😂

MowingTheTerf · 19/11/2023 11:33

They are consistent, the most gay-friendly country in the Middle East is Israel, and Hamas are back by Iran (a country where homosexuality is illegal and all gay people are heavily pressurised to change sex, and a country where women's rights couldn't get any lower).

Rightsraptor · 19/11/2023 11:36

Since it's the River Aire that runs through Leeds, I'm going to stick with my assumption that it's that one that the numpties were chanting about. Thank you for the explanation, @SinnerBoy, I had no idea about that. And no, @Abhannmor Yorkshire does not want to annex Lancashire! Old tribal loyalties are resurfacing now. Mind you the numpties may well be Home Counties born & bred, so won't mind a bit of northern colonisation.

quantumbutterfly · 19/11/2023 11:37

MowingTheTerf · 19/11/2023 11:33

They are consistent, the most gay-friendly country in the Middle East is Israel, and Hamas are back by Iran (a country where homosexuality is illegal and all gay people are heavily pressurised to change sex, and a country where women's rights couldn't get any lower).

Wasn't there some controversy about the Iranian 'womens' football team?

Rosme · 19/11/2023 11:40

PerfectPenquins · 19/11/2023 01:14

They are total idiots. They don't see how ridiculous they are after calling women nazis for years then it turns out they have been the real nazis all along!

Putin calls Ukrainians Nazis, while invading their country, kidnapping their children, setting up torture chambers and withholding medical care from those who disagree with him…

Trans activists call GC women Nazis, while…

Takethehintandfuckoff · 19/11/2023 11:54

Oh yes, let’s re-purpose an anti-Semitic chant calling for the genocide of jews to be about women Instead. Capital idea, the optics will be great.

fucking morons!

Froodwithatowel · 19/11/2023 11:54

Rosme · 19/11/2023 11:40

Putin calls Ukrainians Nazis, while invading their country, kidnapping their children, setting up torture chambers and withholding medical care from those who disagree with him…

Trans activists call GC women Nazis, while…

As with 'river to the sea' and 'men are women' and 'less heat more light' and 'it's complicated',

it all just sounds good and feels nice to parrot and seem to be words with power that they've heard other people using. That's as far as any thought has gone. It's not supposed to stand up to actual thinking or facts or reality.

Really might as well have your toddler shouting about everything's made out of poo, it's about the same level. Feels nice and powerful, not much going on between the ears at the time.

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