Telegraph - Activist teachers’ questioned pupils every term about their gender, parents claim

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The bit about the non binary teacher who wears white clothes when she has her period and doesn't wear sanitary protection is particularly disturbing - which particular school is this I wonder, it's in Brighton.

i'm glad that teachers think it's unbelievable.

I want it to be unbelievable. I want it to be given absolutely no house room, whatsoever.

It's just that I've been here before.

When the press weren't picking any of this up, I kept thinking, this will do it.

And now the press are thinking, this'll do it.

It doesn't.

It's not really about whether or not this story is true, for me. It's about how fucking far do we have to go to make the authorities stop it.

You don't care if this story is true? That reads like you're happy to make things up to get what you want?
Teaching is difficult enough without made up nonsense being brought into it.

That reads like you're happy to make things up to get what you want?

No it doesn't.

It means it could easily be true. Which is the point.

I'll reiterate that my point is that this ideology has resulted in people absolutely believing it, whether it's true or not.

Not that it doesn't matter if it's true. It's that people could believe it anyway because it's so plausible.

What I wasn't particularly interested in was pursuing a discussion about why some people think it's impossible, and some people (like me), believe it isn't impossible. Which was the way it was shaping up to go.

My other point is that so many things have happened which a few months or years before would have been deemed unthinkable, that the criteria one would normally use to judge, no longer feels reliable.

And in case I'm still not clear, none of that means I 'want to make things up to get what I want.'

It might be Dorothy stringer school. There is something strange going on in that school it is extremely woke and honestly I wouldn’t put money on this being untrue. I believe foster are inspecting due to parents complaints.

I didn’t believe they’d put rapists into women’s prisons. I didn’t believe they’d put 6ft 5 ‘people’ into women’s rugby. I didn’t believe they’d remove healthy body parts of suicidal teenagers on the advice of a non medical community. I didn’t think a teacher with size zz fake breasts would be left for months teaching in a school. But here we are.

I don’t think people have to make things up - there is an abundance of proven cases.

I hope it's not true, but with all the other bonkers things which actually have happened, it doesn't seem implausible.

But teachers are telling you it IS implausible.

I didn’t think a teacher with size zz fake breasts would be left for months teaching in a school.

I wonder if, and for how long, this would be tolerated in the UK? I remember there were a load of people saying it couldn’t possibly be true when this case emerged. I was very skeptical of it being real myself and I kept expecting an update that the guy had been a prankster. But his motivation ended up being irrelevant because the real story was that the school was entirely incapable of dealing with this man. Are schools in the UK any more likely to be act in the best interests of children when faced with such absurdity?

Yes. It can take an irritatingly long time to go through processes but schools make sure students are protected in the meantime.
I have been on my school's governing body and had cause to research into it. Now that most schools are in MATs the HR system tends to be more qualified and experienced as well.
I have a variety of reasons to not believe this story. Knowledge of schools and their HR work is the most important though.
The total inappropriateness of this scenario is actually something I think we could all agree on as it happens.

Schools in the U.K. get rid of teachers they don’t want pretty quickly. They just do it with lesson observations at short notice with your worst class, or weekly book scrutinies, or other impossible performance management targets.

The problem is that trust is fast evaporating. Teachers are lying and then gaslighting parents about their own children. It’s no wonder that when stories like the one in the telegraph emerge nobody knows what to believe.

What about this story. Is it also made up?

https://www.brightonandhovenews.org/2023/10/28/parents-seek-apology-from-council-leader-for-calling-their-concerns-baseless-smears/

What about this story. Is it also made up?

No, see that one is believable because there is a precedent for schools to be able to keep confidential medical information from parents, e.g. https://www.theguardian.com/uk/2004/may/13/education.health

In the absence of guidance from the government, there are a lot of schools muddling their way through tricky legal issues. That the government has failed time and again to produce their trans guidance for schools, and the EHRC have admitted that their legal guidance for schools has been wrong for years, the expectation that schools should always make perfect decisions here is totally unreasonable.

But this story about a teacher being allowed to just bleed around the school is nothing like believable. There's no basis for a school to be required to allow it. There's no potential discrimination lawsuit because it's not discrimination.